Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Manc in London]

Hooked up on oxygen, antibiotics, drip, and steroids.

Hope you get well soon, Blue

 

[inchy14]

Yes, I read that too...hence my curiosity in this whole area.
I know I'm Negative, think it's O but might be A. I had to have the usual injection to counter this when I gave birth to my son.
Need to ask my GP at some point.

You’re not as negative as some on here......
Im B+ thankfully... helps me through it all.

 

[Manc in London]

Have you got something to back up that claim?

In my experiences rules were much more enforced abroad, people respected them more, and due to a lack of holidaymakers it was very easy to keep away from people, no crowds to avoid etc etc

And people were, generally, in countries where the rate of infection was a hell of a lot lower than the UK.

Did you go abroad last year?

Pretty sure I read that a strain that was first tracked to Spain was found in several thousands over here. However, some selfish people see going abroad as some kind of right. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they were forced to quarantine.

 

[mackenzie]

You’re not as negative as some on here......
Im B+ thankfully... helps me through it all.

Lol ;-)

 

[feedthegoat27]

Where will these people go?

I can imagine several countries may not allow visitors and those that do may require a certificate/letter of some kind. Plus, when you go these countries, they may be in lockdown, so why bother? I would also think many cannot afford to go on holiday with thousands unemployed or having lower incomes. For those who do go abroad, they may well have to quarantine when they come back.

Feck it, I will travel around the UK seeing family and put more money towards a loft extension and an electric car.

I imagine some countries in Europe, particularly those that are more reliant on tourism than others, will gradually open up as summer approaches.

Think places like Greece, Spain, Turkey, Croatia, Italy etc, much like last year.

The vaccine aspect remains to be seen, though my guess is that countries will permit people with a negative test if they haven't yet had the vaccine/declined the vaccine.

The lockdown question isn't really applicable as it's unlikely the country will be allowing tourists if said country is in lockdown.
Quarantine on return? Possibly, all depends on the travel corridors/vaccine rollout etc. Package holidays will generally only operate should there be no quarantine on arrival or return.

I don't foresee many long haul destinations opening up; maybe America, some Caribbean islands, some places in the Indian Ocean possibly. Can probably rule out Australia and New Zealand until 2022.

With the ongoing uncertainty, I'm sure the UK domestic holiday market will see a local boost in 2021.
I can't see international travel returning to relative normality until 2022 at the earliest, but some foreign travel will again return in 2021 for those inclined.

 

[mr t]

Pretty sure I read that a strain that was first tracked to Spain was found in several thousands over here. However, some selfish people see going abroad as some kind of right. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they were forced to quarantine.

The only way to stop folk coming and going around the globe is to close the UK’s borders - end of.
Simply asking folk not to do things doesn’t work.
Some people haven’t even got the self discipline to stay away from illegal raves on a Saturday night.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

You’re not as negative as some on here......
Im B+ thankfully... helps me through it all.

whereas I think I'm Blood E-Negative.

 

[inchy14]

You can't. Stop trying. Look at the period between you getting your first inkling and symptoms, to the moment when you knew you were ok to get to the shower. Draw a big circle around that whole period.

That is now 'the event'. It's cost you mentally and physically. It's over, but you are not fit in the way you were at the start.

Recovering your strength and mental well being is the task, whilst ensuring the remaining infection and symptoms slowly lessen. You are starting at a lower point than you ever have done. And you are still fighting the disease, if not the infection.

Start with daily goals like a shower. And doing laundry. No exercise kid. Not for ages. Babying yourself mentally is also de rigeur. Cartoons and Disney films. Innocuous stuff, comedy. Some calmish music. Internet is definitely not recommended but you can't beat a bit of support online.

Make a note of what you've still got in your life that you are greatful for. If you do think about the future, things you want to be in a place to work towards - in, say, 6 months or a year, then see yourself as being fit and healthy at the centre. Your lungs and other organs and nerves are like a very old tree. They've just been blighted and chopped right back. They will regrow at a glacial pace. The calmer, more positive and gentle your recovery now, the more even and strong that growth will be from the bottom up. And therefore the stronger the tree will be in the months, and years to come. Ignore Boris or anyone else's timescale. You sound really unwell. And remember, you didn't have access to plasma treatment, COPD, vitamin injection, a spotless hospital, 2 registrars 3 consultants and 8 nurses to monitor and do everything. Or anything else.

Looking after yourself whilst ill is a tricky and draining thing. It really is. I want you to be prepared for how it can make you feel. But it's good love that you are showing yourself. Like a nurse, or your mum, if she was good with you when you were ill, or maybe a girlfriend. Easy does it. Treat yourself with kid gloves. Count the things you do and how gentle you are on yourself.

I hope you begin to feel better. No-one expects you to be running around for ages. And that is very sad. I genuinely feel very bad for you, because I've had to recover on my own from less, and I know how sad the process can be, when you sit there and think, I could do with a break from looking after this sick guy, and you know one isn't coming. Without going out, it's that much worse. Look forward to that one in a month or two. Til then, it's showers, hygeine, washing, food, and cheering yourself up, and pracitising being calm and gentle and attentive, all the way.

Quality post and advice mate. Excellent.

 

[feedthegoat27]

Pretty sure I read that a strain that was first tracked to Spain was found in several thousands over here. However, some selfish people see going abroad as some kind of right. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they were forced to quarantine.

I know lots of people who like to travel, myself included obviously, but I don't know anyone who thinks its their ''right''.
I'm sure these people exist, as you get idiots from all sections of society, but I don't know anyone like that personally.

The pandemic has certainly made me appreciate travel even more, and reinforced to not take it for granted.

If the Government opted to close the borders for 2021 then I'd be sad but would obviously go along with it. Not that I think they will unless shit really hits the fan (even more so than now)

 

[Manc in London]

I imagine some countries in Europe, particularly those that are more reliant on tourism than others, will gradually open up as summer approaches.

Think places like Greece, Spain, Turkey, Croatia, Italy etc, much like last year.

The vaccine aspect remains to be seen, though my guess is that countries will permit people with a negative test if they haven't yet had the vaccine/declined the vaccine.

The lockdown question isn't really applicable as it's unlikely the country will be allowing tourists if said country is in lockdown.
Quarantine on return? Possibly, all depends on the travel corridors/vaccine rollout etc. Package holidays will generally only operate should there be no quarantine on arrival or return.

I don't foresee many long haul destinations opening up; maybe America, some Caribbean islands, some places in the Indian Ocean possibly. Can probably rule out Australia and New Zealand until 2022.

With the ongoing uncertainty, I'm sure the UK domestic holiday market will see a local boost in 2021.
I can't see international travel returning to relative normality until 2022 at the earliest, but some foreign travel will again return in 2021 for those inclined.

It would be a surprise if all holiday destination types remain closed. Maybe some will not go because they had their fingers burnt last time when the Govt started to close flight corridors.

From what I have read, Cyprus will not allow anyone in who has not had a vaccine. Even with so few cases (last time I looked), the Govt had banned households mixing. Frustrating for us as we have a little place over there. But like I said elsewhere, there are other benefits as it will make a loft extension and a new car more affordable :)