Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Anyone thinking there going to be lying on a sandy beach this year is delusional, don’t waste your money on any holiday this year it won’t be happening any time soon
I was told that last year but still found myself on a beach in Greece.
Covid exists but it isn’t the end of the world, we need to learn to live with it.
Vaccinate and carry on is the only way in my opinion.
 
Everywhere is going to get the new strains at some point, it’s going to be a shitstorm.
I just hope as many places can hang off for as long as possible until the vaccination programme is well under way to try and limit the issues this will present.

Thankfully we seem to be containing ours, all be it steadily. South Africa the same with theirs (last I checked), I know these things spread globally but with distancing in place throughout Europe to some extent hopefully limit that shitstorm.
 
I was told that last year but still found myself on a beach in Greece.
Covid exists but it isn’t the end of the world, we need to learn to live with it.
Vaccinate and carry on is the only way in my opinion.
Think these new variants are more potent though, can’t see Spain /Portugal etc opening borders anytime soon to a load of pissed up brits
 
Think these new variants are more potent though, can’t see Spain /Portugal etc opening borders anytime soon to a load of pissed up brits
One new variant after another though isn’t it, where the hell does it end?
A line in the sand needs to be drawn, give in or just give up and never go on holiday ever again?

I like a holiday and enjoy a drink, but does that make me a pissed up Brit
 
One new variant after another though isn’t it, where the hell does it end?
A line in the sand needs to be drawn, give in or just give up and never go on holiday ever again?

I like a holiday and enjoy a drink, but does that make me a pissed up Brit
It was tongue in cheek m8
 
One new variant after another though isn’t it, where the hell does it end?
A line in the sand needs to be drawn, give in or just give up and never go on holiday ever again?

I love a holiday too mate. Can't beat them imo. But I'd gladly shut the borders for as long as it takes to have as much of the rest that life has to offer on these shores. Family life, socialising, sport and activities, music. It won't be 'never again', but we also must keep at it to keep ourselves safe and give everyone who comes into contact with the NHS for whatever reason a fighting chance. The best way to do that is to know what we're dealing with and be able to do so effectively without new strains being imported and complicating matters. Until this issue is sorted globally rather than just nationally, we'll make do with enjoying what's here, and I don't see that as a bad thing. We're very fortunate.
 
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I love a holiday too mate. Can't beat them imo. But I'd gladly shut the borders for as long as it takes to have as much of the rest that life has to offer on these shores. Family life, socialising, sport and activities, music. It won't be 'never again', but we also must keep at it to keep ourselves safe and give everyone who comes into contact with the NHS for whatever reason a fighting chance. The best way to do that is to know what we're dealing with and be able to do so effectively without new strains being imported and complicating matters. Until this issue is sorted globally rather than just nationally, we'll make do with enjoying what's here, and I don't see that as a bad thing. We're very fortunate.
Good post mate
 
Perhaps a bit fanciful, but I can see what you mean, and nature is definitely incredible.

At the end of the day it created the biggest virus of all, humans, killing their own planet slowly because we became too good at reproducing, and failed to see that there being too many of us would create a whole host of problems.
Thomas Malthus agrees with you
 
We certainly won't have seen the last of these varients, but it's really not in the virus's best interest to kill more people, it just wants to be more effective at spreading, if it kills all it's hosts, it kills itself.
i dont doubt you for one minute there mate but how does the virus know what the tolerance of a human is, if the virus has infected say 10 people and one dies the other viruses dont know that so there would be no point in mutating, they have done there job by infecting the body so why mutate or upgrade there armour so to say
 
I wonder once this is over/ under control how many vulnerable/ old people will still self isolate through fear maybe never getting back to how they lived before last March, such a sad thought really but it will no doubt happen
 
I wonder once this is over/ under control how many vulnerable/ old people will still self isolate through fear maybe never getting back to how they lived before last March, such a sad thought really but it will no doubt happen
its very sad mate ,the old people i know are very scared now seeing all these deaths,most wont step out of the doorway some have not been out for over a year,if the virus dosnt get them then there mental health will
 
i dont doubt you for one minute there mate but how does the virus know what the tolerance of a human is, if the virus has infected say 10 people and one dies the other viruses dont know that so there would be no point in mutating, they have done there job by infecting the body so why mutate or upgrade there armour so to say
You need to ask a better scientist than me that question, but a virus can only exist if it has a host, if it can't find one it dies, we might be able to kill this one eventually, we've certainly killed others in the past.

One thing with this one, we've created a huge number of new treatments and vaccines very quickly, so the good thing is it's improved our science.
 
It's a fecking disgrace. The Supermarkets clearly lied through their teeth a week and a half ago.

They are making vast profits as they're the only places open, get more staff/security and tell these dumb fuckers either one of them stays in the car with the kids while one does the shopping or they go elsewhere. Same with young fit couples, one goes in and buys the stuff one stays outside. Of course they may wise up and split up before getting there like groups of lads used to do getting in clubs years ago, but at the moment it is bedlam again in there.
 
its very sad mate ,the old people i know are very scared now seeing all these deaths,most wont step out of the doorway some have not been out for over a year,if the virus dosnt get them then there mental health will
Yes pal probably wont-even let there family in through fear of catching it, when things are back to normal we should knock on there door retreat out of the garden just to chat or see if they need any shopping, being old is no fun at the best of times I can’t begin to imagine how they must feel
 
It's time supermarkets started doing their bit aside from adverts going on about masks and only one person shopping, but then doing bugger all to enforce any of these rules.

I went to do my weekly shop at Aldi today. Although not overly busy, I'd try to time it so it wasn't, there was still couples and whole families shopping. Kids running about grabbing stuff,none in masks, sitting on the counter at the back where you pack your shopping, it winds me up.

Food shopping is the only place I mix now. I have no choice but to go there or I'll starve and deliveries are once again booked up in advance. I understand single parents may have no option but to take their kids but the majority were full families. I feel like I'm playing bloody Russian roulette once a week.
I completely agree. Absolute wankers. Shopping is the only place I go and whole families in there as you say.

And if I see another one in there with a mask under their nose I think ill put my can of diet Pepsi through their face.
Really annoyed me today....mum, dad, young teen kid and gran all with masks under their noses.
 
i dont doubt you for one minute there mate but how does the virus know what the tolerance of a human is, if the virus has infected say 10 people and one dies the other viruses dont know that so there would be no point in mutating, they have done there job by infecting the body so why mutate or upgrade there armour so to say
The virus doesn’t know, and we should try and understand that evolution, which is what mutations drive, does not have a ‘will’. Mutations are chance events. And it is only the mutations which provide an increased chance of survival (in this case, increased transmissibility) which then go on to be more successful and reproduce. It’s why the really nasty virus’s, Ebola for example, don’t spread like this. They kill the host too quickly and therefore can not replicate.

It’s important to appreciate that there has probably been a number of mutations which have occurred in the UK since this began. However, if a new mutation occurred which meant the virus is 50% more deadly but at the expense of its transmissibility - well it won’t cause any further damage.

I get what you’re saying there too, but the virus’s ‘job’, so to speak, isn’t to infect hosts. It is to replicate. It does that by infecting hosts yes but once you see it that way, it’s much clearer as to why its ability to spread is so important and why as far as we know, it’s very similar mutations that we are seeing here, in SA etc. That’s the key mutation in the amino acid chain which really drives its transmissibility.
 
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