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Has anyone heard anything official about over 60's being called for a jab yet?

I got a text from my GP practice on Wednesday inviting me to book a jab, which I had yesterday. When I got there, there were people in the queue giving their dates of birth in the 1950s, ie sixty-somethings.

I'm guessing that the ramp-up of capacity has hoovered up all the over 70's and key workers who want a jab, and now they are starting on my age group to keep things flowing. It seems to be the case in the North East, and I also had a message from a mate in Hampshire who has got a jab booked. He's 67.
 
Healdplace said:
I do not see why telling the facts about vaccine supply numbers in next few weeks is a political ploy.

Of course, Scottish nationalist ministers do sometimes play the nationalist card. Its why they exist.

But there was not one peep of that here. It was simple statement of fact the public of Scotland AND the UK are entitled to know.

And blaming the timing of the press conference as a way to get one up on Boris is surely silly as nothing stopped them going on Breakfast TV and announcing it then or scheduling press conferences at 11 am if needs be - not 12 20 pm (as Scotland do every week day and have for months and months so hardly difficult to counter).

The UK government call them at about 3 or 4 hours notice as it is.

For me this is not about politics at all. Its about being clearly told what is going on and why that matters. And it was entirely about Scotland. No idea to this moment what the England position is. We are just left guessing until told. That is the real problem here. Clarity.

Disagree by all means.
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It's possible that there is a commercial contract in place to not reveal the number of vaccines being supplied to each country. Can you imagine the uproar if Scotland's numbers are being cut by 50% but England's by only 20%. Is she trying to force the hand of Westminster to say by how much England's vaccines are being cut by. If it's more than Scotland's she will say look how great I am and how much better it will be if Scotland is independent and if it's less she she will say that's why we need to be independent so that I can ensure we are treated better.
 
unexpected item said:
Has anyone heard anything official about over 60's being called for a jab yet?

I got a text from my GP practice on Wednesday inviting me to book a jab, which I had yesterday. When I got there, there were people in the queue giving their dates of birth in the 1950s, ie sixty-somethings.

I'm guessing that the ramp-up of capacity has hoovered up all the over 70's and key workers who want a jab, and now they are starting on my age group to keep things flowing. It seems to be the case in the North East, and I also had a message from a mate in Hampshire who has got a jab booked. He's 67.
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I know some 65-69 year olds that have had it or got appointments this week.
 
There is a vaccination centre down South that is set up to do a thousand injections per day. They have been getting bookings for only 100 per day and on one day they did only 30 injections. The online booking site will not let you book if you are younger than 70, something needs shaking up badly.
 
blueparrot said:
I know some 65-69 year olds that have had it or got appointments this week.
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About 10 - me included - have been posting about it on here for days. I had mine Tuesday. And got the invite letter today. So it is very common now. And we are in the group that was due to be done next (tier 5) and was officially announced today as being done everywhere from Monday. So only a few days ahead of the schedule for some areas.

It is probably just a shock to some we have actually got this vaccination spot on and are actually world beating this time in terms of major nations with large populations to cover.

Praise where due. This has been done expertly and proves to the world why they should have an NHS system too. As their expertise at doing this kind of thing annually is a real credit to why it works in a crisis.

Despite all global chat about the NHS being swamped the NHS will have saved many lives here and is now showing how it will save many more through rapid vaccination hard to do in countries with fractured health care.
 
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Anyone in the trafford area know of 60-65 getting it yet? That's my dad's age and im genuinely curious! The day my mum and dad get theirs is the day i breathe a huge sigh of relief
 
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Healdplace said:
I have not yet read the letter in detail as it only just arrived. Can you still book the second one then even if you have already had the jab before the letter?

Do you have to go to the same venue as there might be more local options in 3 months?
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Just go on the web site and enter your NHS number they will let you know if you can book. If you can they give you a choice of dates and times.
 
twosips said:
Anyone in the trafford area know of 60+ getting it yet? That's my dad's age and im genuinely curious! The day my mum and dad get theirs is the day i breathe a huge sigh of relief
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My wife who is approaching 70 is getting her 1st dose tomorrow. Online booking site was useless so rang the 119 freephone number and sorted it out on there.
 
Healdplace said:
About 10 - me included - have been posting about it on here for days. I had mine Tuesday. And got the invite letter today. So it is very common now. And we are in the group that was due to be done next (tier 5) and was officially announced today as being done everywhere from Monday. So only a few days ahead of the schedule for some areas.
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Wife got invite letter today, it was dated 4th February. Online site would not accept a booking so she rang 119 and got it sorted out there for 1st dose tomorrow afternoon.
 
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Boom and there we have it folks. Need to have a little more patience, ramp up the daily numbers and before we know it we will return to some normality, however with some restrictions in place I believe such as mask wearing, possibly no huge sporting events to be at capacity and possible hot spots for holiday destinations to ensure we don't bring much a more virulent strain
 
Eds said:
Boom and there we have it folks. Need to have a little more patience, ramp up the daily numbers and before we know it we will return to some normality, however with some restrictions in place I believe such as mask wearing, possibly no huge sporting events to be at capacity and possible hot spots for holiday destinations to ensure we don't bring much a more virulent strain
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think we honestly need to be brave and say no international travel this year without pre-approval, continue to shut down arrivals and let the labs scour the world for the new variants elsewhere and update their vaccines for them and model their best predictions for future mutations and create a booster that will cover as many as possible. Then inocculate through 2021 and then open up when we've got the best chance of being covered. No point opening up just to let the South African or Brazilian variant take a hold and we're back struggling again.
 
Gray said:
Wife got invite letter today, it was dated 4th February. Online site would not accept a booking so she rang 119 and got it sorted out there for 1st dose tomorrow afternoon.
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Looks like they dated all the letters last week in expectation of running ahead by a week or so of the plan to start under 70s from next Monday (as announced officially today) but likely only posted them this week knowing the usual high spec tech that gov uk seems to use would probably do a Little Britain if they arrived on time.....as in Computer Says No!
 
Following on from the positive info from Israel, my own noddy look at the England hospital data here.

Graph is the proportion of over 80s recorded in hospital deaths. We expect that to drop as they were the first cohort vaccinated. Vaccination started Dec 8th, so you'd expect an impact on deaths to start coming through about a month later. Here's the data. Daily numbers are plotted in red, weekly average in blue and the overall deaths in grey on the right hand axis.

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Exactly what we'd expect - a fairly steady decline in over 80s as a proportion of the total.

I've also had a look at the first wave last April. Rather a different picture:

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We see the opposite - more older people dying in hospital over time as a proportion.

I think this is pretty convincing evidence of a vaccine effect - but then the easiest person to fool is always yourself!

It's possible to roughly quantify the effect - it works out at ~10% reduction in total deaths, or 25 people a day are currently being saved through vaccination in English Hospitals. The total in the UK community can be expected to be quite a bit higher - I think most out of hospital deaths are elderly.
 
unexpected item said:
Has anyone heard anything official about over 60's being called for a jab yet?

I got a text from my GP practice on Wednesday inviting me to book a jab, which I had yesterday. When I got there, there were people in the queue giving their dates of birth in the 1950s, ie sixty-somethings.

I'm guessing that the ramp-up of capacity has hoovered up all the over 70's and key workers who want a jab, and now they are starting on my age group to keep things flowing. It seems to be the case in the North East, and I also had a message from a mate in Hampshire who has got a jab booked. He's 67.
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My area thanet has started doing the 60's this week. I said to the lady doing the bookings I was surprised, she said lots of people are turning down the jab so we have got to the 60's quick than expected.
 
Northern Ireland data:

9 deaths - was 16 last week

407 cases - was 506 last week

16.2% positivity - was 16.8% last week

7 day rolling total 2393 - was 2377 yesterday and 3203 last week

Care home outbreaks 78 - was 80 yesterday and 98 last week - these are falling fast now a very good sign

488 patients - was 518 yesterday and 636 last week - again plummeting like Scotland and England are too.

51 ventilated - was 53 yesterday and 61 last week - again a really hopeful sign.
 
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