Coronavirus (2021) thread

[twosips]

Feel sick to the stomach. Months of my aunties and brother saying anti-vax conspiracy nonsense to my mum and she's now hesitant re vaccines. An intelligent, usually considered woman. The danger of this stuff. Breaks my heart.

 

[Ban-jani]

The question is how we deal with things in the short term - e.g. are you allowed to go on holiday if you've had the jabs, but other members of your family who are younger, haven't?

I am 28 and won’t be offered one until the summer. I am completely against not being allowed into places here without one but I have no problem with travel, if it makes sense.

It’s tough shit and I’ll have to wait.

 

[Healdplace]

I really am puzzled by these anti vax people. How are they explaining 15 million people having had it without any single media story of something going wrong beyond sore arms and a bit of tiredness that you get with flu jabs much of the time because it is what you will get if you prime your immune system to be on guard. The entire point.

I can see this might have worked before millions were inoculated but how is it remotely credible now?

But if there was a sniff of credibility our doom mongerging media would have been all over it.

 

[RobMCFC]

However, those who do refuse to get the jab, that disadvantage will be brought upon themselves, so have no right to complain if that is what transpires.

Agree 100%. My point was about those who have not yet been offered the jab - but that will likely only be a problem for the next 6 months.

 

[blueparrot]

I really am puzzled by these anti vax people. How are they explaining 15 million people having had it without any single media story of something going wrong beyond sore arms and a bit of tiredness that you get with flu jabs much of the time because it is what you will get if you prime your immune system to be on guard. The entire point.

I can see this might have worked before millions were inoculated but how is it remotely credible now?

Same way they explain flat earth, for every rational explantion they have an answer, and no matter how rational the argumant they have another answer. While the vast majority see it for the complete nonsense it is unfortunately they prey on the gullible.
It’s an argument I had in the flat earth thread that these people will be the same people and while the flat earth argument can be laughed off when they convince their followers of one thing they turn it to anti science propaganda that becomes dangerous and with anti vaccine becomes life threatening.

 

[Bluemoon dan]

Feel sick to the stomach. Months of my aunties and brother saying anti-vax conspiracy nonsense to my mum and she's now hesitant re vaccines. An intelligent, usually considered woman. The danger of this stuff. Breaks my heart.

There was a really good programme on BBC1 last night about vaccines and the conspiracy theories. I'm sure it'll be on the iplayer if you could show her that? I only caught the last 15 minutes of it myself but what I saw was really interesting and picked apart a lot of the anti-vaxxers arguments.

 

[blueparrot]

Feel sick to the stomach. Months of my aunties and brother saying anti-vax conspiracy nonsense to my mum and she's now hesitant re vaccines. An intelligent, usually considered woman. The danger of this stuff. Breaks my heart.

Liked it but in sympathy, obviously.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I’ve posted about this idiot before but a friend of my wife’s is a community nurse visiting her patients at home or in care homes. She has refused her offered vaccination as in her mid 50s she has become a fanatical vegan so she won’t have it because it has been tested on animals. All the medication she dishes out has been tested on animals FFS.

She has been ranting on to my wife and other friends about her ‘human rights’ as now she has been told she can’t visit patients unless she has it. She is a fucking selfish nutter and if she won’t have it then she’ll have to find another job. Fuck her.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I really am puzzled by these anti vax people. How are they explaining 15 million people having had it without any single media story of something going wrong beyond sore arms and a bit of tiredness that you get with flu jabs much of the time because it is what you will get if you prime your immune system to be on guard. The entire point.

I can see this might have worked before millions were inoculated but how is it remotely credible now?

But if there was a sniff of credibility our doom mongerging media would have been all over it.

Haven't you heard?- it also makes you infertile, that's another one they are offering an excuse...

Looking at some of them, we should be holding them down and jabbing them if that were the case!

Double bubble.

 

[hammocity]

I’ve posted about this idiot before but a friend of my wife’s is a community nurse visiting her patients at home or in care homes. She has refused her offered vaccination as in her mid 50s she has become a fanatical vegan so she won’t have it because it has been tested on animals. All the medication she dishes out has been tested on animals FFS.

She has been ranting on to my wife and other friends about her ‘human rights’ as now she has been told she can’t visit patients unless she has it. She is a fucking selfish nutter and if she won’t have it then she’ll have to find another job. Fuck her.

There was an employment lawyer on the radio yesterday who said under current legislation no one can be sacked for refusing the vaccine but anyone being employed in the future will have to have the jab if the employer insists on it. I'm guessing your wife's friend will have to be reassigned to other duties but as you say, she's selfish and it's beyond belief these people like her are putting others at risk.