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New record test numbers however.

1, 535, 487 pillar 1 & 2.

Up 174, 000 on yesterday.

So the positivity is likely to have fallen day to day.
 
6753 cases - first week to week rise unfortunately. By 180.

Up 827 on yesterday.

Highest number since 27 February.

All that rise in England day to day. 881 up on yesterday here.

We need to accept that there will be an inevitable rise in cases as we unlock and test more. The real currency is now deaths and hospital admissions which will take time to filter through and analyse but at least deaths are down 25% again week to week. Hence I can live with the slow release and 5 week gaps

Do we think the Zoe app may be less useful now as schoolkids who are being tested in huge volumes are unlikely to use the app?
 
This is the problem i have with this Vaccine.

I am not anti-vaccination, in fact i am all for them if they are safe.

I am not convinced they are safe though.

It is alright saying ,don't blow it out of proportion. That highly likely you will be okay.

What if i am an unlucky fucker and i am not ?

I suffer from all sorts of allergies, I already have a compromised immune system from having Glandular Fever, as well as a couple of patches of Psoriasis.

I have legitimate concerns the vaccination might kill me.

This is why i am waiting out for a while yet.

Not because i am being a selfish fucker .I am waiting it out to see how people with my sort of conditions do over the next few months.

Seems like common sense to me.

I’ve had glandular fever and psoriasis on and off. I also had a bad reaction to the tetanus vaccine.

I’ve had the AZ vaccine and am fine.
 
We need to accept that there will be an inevitable rise in cases as we unlock and test more. The real currency is now deaths and hospital admissions which will take time to filter through and analyse but at least deaths are down 25% again week to week. Hence I can live with the slow release and 5 week gaps

Do we think the Zoe app may be less useful now as schoolkids who are being tested in huge volumes are unlikely to use the app?
I think it will only ever be a guide. It has never really been very accurate even before this week.

But yes school testing will now bump numbers up without question.

And yes hospital data is all that really matters. Why I focus on it each evening and seek the up to date numbers the media do not give.

Look at N Ireland - cases rise today seems the headline - but is not - patient numbers and ventilator numbers tumble again is.

Cases only are more than a statistic if they end up in hospital. Which if these are children testing positive almost none ever will.
 
New record test numbers however.

1, 535, 487 pillar 1 & 2.

Up 174, 000 on yesterday.

So the positivity is likely to have fallen day to day.
A lot of those tests were the inaccurate positive flow tests carried out on school children I assume. So could many be false negatives??
 
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Unfortunately the NW has the biggest rise today - though everyone is up.

By 283 to 1053 - easily the most and the highest score by any region in two weeks.

Greater Manchester will see a lot of rises today I suspect.
 
As expected the GM Numbers are all well up.

Highest score in two weeks and a big week to week rise with every single borough rising week on week which will push most pop scores up.

Rise was 183 of the 283 increase in the NW - so above average.

Indeed the numbers were bad enough today to take GM to its highest split of the NW total in 2021. At 51.6%. It was half that a few weeks ago when Merseyside had the biggest split of cases.

Every borough was still under 100 though. With Manchester the highest at 91.And Trafford the lowest - though up itself at 30.

Rochdale is second highest at 67 and they and Stockport seem to have had the biggest week to week rises.

If this continues for a few days many GM boroughs will be back over 100 with their weekly Pop Scores.

Hopefully it will settle down as the test numbers level off.
 
As expected the GM Numbers are all well up.

Highest score in two weeks and a big week to week rise with every single borough rising week on week which will push most pop scores up.

Rise was 183 of the 283 increase in the NW - so above average.

Indeed the numbers were bad enough today to take GM to its highest split of the NW total in 2021. At 51.6%. It was half that a few weeks ago when Merseyside had the biggest split of cases.

Every borough was still under 100 though. With Manchester the highest at 91.And Trafford the lowest - though up itself at 30.

Rochdale is second highest at 67 and they and Stockport seem to have had the biggest week to week rises.

If this continues for a few days many GM boroughs will be back over 100 with their weekly Pop Scores.

Hopefully it will settle down as the test numbers level off.

I don't think it will as the schools will keep testing. Key is hospital admissions and deaths.
 
Loads in my lads class got positive flow test - all negative on the proper tests but still cant go in school for ten days! What a load of bollox.
Yes as i undertand it, if your kids test positive with the inaccurate positive flow test, you are not allowed or advised to get the more accurate PCR test, the schools have to abide by the rubbish flow test. This makes no sense unless it is to save money or not use testing capacity and all at the expense of school childrens education. Bizarre policy.
 
I don't think it will as the schools will keep testing. Key is hospital admissions and deaths.
Agreed as I said before. Though I find admissions too cyclical so I use the raw total day to day as only Mondays seem to impact that. ~

And the testing will presumably now find lots of kids who have it or catch it from going back to school but were never ill so would not otherwise get tested. That will settle down once the ones catching it have caught it. A school is going to have a compacted outbreak given its confined environment and not new cases day after day for weeks on end I suspect.
 
6753 cases - first week to week rise unfortunately. By 180.

Up 827 on yesterday.

Highest number since 27 February.

All that rise in England day to day. 881 up on yesterday here.

With the amount of lateral flow tests, much of the increase may be explainable by false positives. The tests in schools may also be picking up more asymptomatic carriers, which is no bad thing.

I believe schools are also sending children home with testing kits. Hopefully, these will be used by families and they pick up more asymptomatic cases.
 
The positivity rate week to week fell btw from the daft numbers all these tests produce.

From 0.8% last week when we had fewer cases but a LOT less tests to just over 0.4% today.

So the media will argue cases rise - when in positivity terms the numbers versus test numbers halved.
 
Turns out the events being investigated on the AZ jab are massively higher in COVID victims.

So even if true (very unlikely), you'd still be far better off with than without the vaccine.


Won't the general pop figure will be over a lifetime whereas the AZ vaccine one will be pro rata over a much shorter period if I'm reading it correctly. It'd be impossible to calculate a similar AZ v Gen Pop figure for the same period.

I had the AZ 3 weeks ago so have no agenda and will be back when called for my second.
 
Won't the general pop figure will be over a lifetime whereas the AZ vaccine one will be pro rata over a much shorter period if I'm reading it correctly. It'd be impossible to calculate a similar AZ v Gen Pop figure for the same period.

I had the AZ 3 weeks ago so have no agenda and will be back when called for my second.

I haven't checked the numbers. I assume they're prorated for the time period. Happy to be corrected if wrong.
 
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