Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Gaylord du Bois said:
Some are experiencing a few effects from the second Pfizer, I believe.
My daughter and her colleagues have this week.
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The published data shows a stronger reaction for 2nd Pfizer, much weaker for 2nd AZ. No idea why.

I've spent the day zonked out after 1st AZ yesterday.

Still, it's all a lot better than catching a deadly virus!
 
Rammy Blue said:
My mum is in her 80’s and has had both Pfizer and had zero side effects after either jab.
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Did she have both in the initial 3 weeks? My wife did and had nothing more than mild joint aches. Whereas my daughter and her colleagues went 12 weeks between with all of them showing varying systems.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Did she have both in the initial 3 weeks? My wife did and had nothing more than mild joint aches. Whereas my daughter and her colleagues went 12 weeks between with all of them showing varying systems.
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Ah yes, that did cross my mind after I’d posted. My mum had both 3 weeks apart.
 
frothy said:
No i don't, and i want every body in Europe to be Vaccinated as soon as possible, ok we aren't part of their club as you put it, but they are just being petty, how many lifes have been lost in the EU because of the miss information about the Oxford jab? And the club you obviously liked to be a member of are going to to carry on banning exports of the Vaccine to Country's that ordered them in good faith
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I am just happy we’ve beaten the Frenchies on the rugby pitch. We are doing fine with the vaccines and it is for other Countries / trading blocs to sort themselves out.

I agree everyone should honour their deals but Italy have 25,000 cases (per day) and Australia had 70 (last time I checked) so it’s clear who has the much greater need. Vaccine production and distribution is being ramped up so I doubt the Aussies will really lose out.
 
Healdplace said:
Maybe offer to pay 10% of the cost of a holiday if taken in the UK versus going to Europe.

Ditto for buying UK products made here not abroad,

I think our home economy - entertainment and shopping etc - will bounce back unexpectedly fast. As it will be like opening up after the war where there was less option and no money. The more we can boost that side of things the more we can look longer term toward exports. That will be harder now no doubt as most countries will urge their own people to buy at home.

In the short term it will be like being released from prison and we need to assure as much as possible of that goes into the UK coffers.

However, we are NOT there yet!
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People will buy whatever is the cheapest. Unless it’s a holiday. Fuck 20% discount to freeze my nads off in Northumbria, where’s the Spanish check-in desk?
 
Healdplace said:
I agree and economics is not my thing so I am not going to worry about how we do versus anybody really. Just how WE do period so people still have livelihoods and jobs and some kind of normality - even though working might indeed change radically

I suspect we will give lots of contracts to UK companies to rebuild infrastructure - as we see with what look like daft plans to build a bridge between Scotland and Ireland or a tunnel with a roundabout underneath the Isle of Man.

It might be a big day for all those who ever came up with crackpot plans if someone thinks they will boost jobs and the economy.

But that will be for 2022.

We have to get through 2021 first. And if todays rumours are true that over 60s will be getting a THIRD jab in August to deal with variants a lot of vaccinating still to do.

At this rate by the autumn my arm will be more like a pin cushion.
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We could ramp up social housing. Then sell it.
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Face coverings by themselves are a lifeless object, right up to the point you breath on them, which is why they came with a warning to use them for 20 minutes maximum, you mat have noticed the advertising on the washable ones that has come out?
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Operating theatre teams wear masks for hours at a time.
Masks can become less efficient if they become damp. If you keep a damp one and don't wash it it could become mouldy it can never grow Covid, flu or any other human virus.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I don't think this has anything to do with politics.

Adverse events reported => recall batch used, consider risk/benefit of continuing wider programme is a perfectly normal response.

Different juristictions take different views on risk/benefit.

Or do the Democratic Republic of Congo have a political beef with AZ - they've postponed starting their programme?

I mean, I don't necessarily agree it's sensible, after all I had my AZ jab yesterday, but I don't think it's political.
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I agree - this is standards committees using their own guidelines. Nothing political about it.
 
GM scoreboard:


302 - down 154 from 456 - 48.4 % of the NW total of 624 - down 247 . GM % down 4.0%

Lowest GM score since August.

Wk to wk: 968 v 807 v 578 v 516 v 373 v 302 today. Week to week going down to one third of 5 weeks ago.



Manchester 75 - down from 89. Pop score up 13 to 9190. Weekly cases 518 . Weekly Pop up 3 to 94.

Rochdale 41 - down from 45. Pop score up 18 to 9157. Weekly cases 282. Weekly Pop up 1to 126.

Wigan 32- down from 58. Pop score up 10 to 8488. Weekly cases 329. Weekly Pop Pop down 2 to 100.

Salford 32 - down from 46. Pop score up 12 to 8606. Weekly cases 296. Weekly Pop down 3 to 114.

Oldham 32 - down from 38. Pop score up 13 to 9293. Weekly cases 238. Weekly Pop down 2 to 100.

Bolton 24- down from 41. Pop score up 8 to 8633. Weekly cases 277. Weekly Pop down 11 to 96.

Stockport 23- down from 44. Pop score up 8 to 6838. Weekly cases 273. Weekly Pop down 6 to 92.

Tameside 18 - down from 56. Pop score up 8 to 7699. Big fall from yesterday. Weekly cases 258. Weekly Pop down 8 to 114.

Bury 16 - down from 17. Pop score up 8 to 8720. The fourth borough to have a Pop Score of 8 today - a new low for all of them in months. But not enough to be top dog today! Weekly cases 145. Still lowest score and lowest in GM since last Summer. Weekly Pop down 5 to 76.

Trafford 9 down from 22. Pop score up 4 to 6712. The empire strikes back. Bury are crushed by light sabre to stay off top spot on their best day in ages. Stockport with their best in months still lose 4 more points to Trafford who have the first single figure total in GM for 6 months. Weekly cases 164 - no longer the lowest in GM but closes the gap on Bury today. Weekly Pop down 4 to 70. Back on track.

Best news of all HALF of the ten GM Boroughs have a single figure Pop Score rise for the first time since last Summer.

Weekly Pop - Borough / Today / Seven days ago / Up/down by Lowest score is best - going down good/up bad

I add the Pop score across the entire pandemic too at the end per 100. This is essentially the percentage of the population in the borough who have tested positive and been recorded. So the minimum immunity acquired that way - if indeed any lasts up to a year by that route. Unrecorded cases, asymptomatic and, of course, vaccinated immunity are all on top of this base number locally.


Rochdale 126 / 121 / UP 5 Testing positive 9.2%

Tameside 114 / 104 / UP 10 Testing positive 7.7%

Salford 114 / 99 UP 15 Testing positive 8.6%

Oldham 100 / 89 / UP 11 Testing positive 9.3%

Wigan 100 / 97 / UP 3 Testing positive 8.5%

Bolton 96 / 109 / down 13 Testing positive 8.6%

Manchester 94 / 89 / UP 5 Testing positive 9.2%

Stockport 92 / 90 / UP 2 Testing positive 6.8%

Bury 76/ 92/ down 16 Testing positive 8.7%

Trafford 70 / 61 / UP 9 Testing positive 6.7%



Eight boroughs going up now week to week but today was a better day.
 
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