Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Bluewonder said:
This simply isn't correct. People admitted to hospital continued to decline until the end of August last year, despite restrictions being lifted throughout May, June and July.
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UK cases for last summer.

Guess when restrictions were lifted.

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[Edit - your reference to deaths reminds me that was the period when Covid sceptics liked to refer to a "casedemic". Turned out they were wrong, of course]
 
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I would rather have a vaccine that was designed by Oxford University and distributed for cost, than I would any vaccine developed by the big pharmaceutical companies.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Just how seasonal COVID is still seems to be very unclear.
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Very much disagree. Look at the graphs of any first world country. Hell even South Africa saw numbers drop to the floor during their summer.

Anyway, my point was that ‘summer plus vaccination campaign’ will see very very low numbers in the U.K. in July and August. If I’m wrong then, come and tell me so.
 
6397 Cases. Good guess earlier by me, but a jump as expected from the three nation rise.

Increase of 792 - biggest in a while. But only up 94 on last week.

178 K extra tests today for that 94.

1.78 Million Tests! Only up nearly 900 K on yesterday,

63 all settings deaths.
 
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SWP's back said:
Look at the graphs of any first world country.
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Graph below.

USA: big rise through early summer, numbers sustained.

France and UK: numbers start to rise once restrictions are eased, consistent rise through summer.

You mention South Africa, but they had a huge spike which peaked smack in the middle of their summer, mid January this year.

Everyone thinks there is a seasonal element to COVID, but there's lots of evidence that shows spread in summer too, including surges to some very high prevalence levels.


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Churchlawtonblue said:
another big % fall in deaths week on week then. Keep the good news coming healdplace.
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Yes, definitely good news. Cases only edging up by less than a 100 week-on-week, still virtually flat more than 2 weeks after schools re-opened despite mass testing, and deaths down a third on last Thursday.

Looking forward to continued progress on hospitalisations later.
 
unicorn said:
Yes, definitely good news. Cases only edging up by less than a 100 week-on-week, still virtually flat more than 2 weeks after schools re-opened despite mass testing, and deaths down a third on last Thursday.

Looking forward to continued progress on hospitalisations later.
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As heald place stated the case numbers are now effectively useless now they are flooding the PCP data with hundreds of thousands of inaccurate LFT. Its the Hospital cases and deaths that are important.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Graph below.

USA: big rise through early summer, numbers sustained.

France and UK: numbers start to rise once restrictions are eased, consistent rise through summer.

You mention South Africa, but they had a huge spike which peaked smack in the middle of their summer, mid January this year.

Everyone thinks there is a seasonal element to COVID, but there's lots of evidence that shows spread in summer too, including surges to some very high prevalence levels.


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As I say, judge my posts in July and August.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
USA: big rise through early summer, numbers sustained.
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It doesn't tell the whole story that graph, cases changed radically from north in winter to south in summer, and that's because the heat in the south drove everyone into air conditioning, there were similar spikes on hot countries in the northern summer.

It's definitely "seasonal", but it's mostly driven by indoor activity, so hot/humid countries get it when cooler/temperate climates tend to ease because there is more outdoor activity.
 
Healdplace said:
This feels like the world is laughing at us taking the dodgy vaccine whilst they sit and watch their elderly folk die.

It is heart breaking.
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I dunno if this is any consolation, but I don't get the impression people in Germany are laughing at the UK. They're pissed off - maybe rightly, I don't know enough of the details - about perceived 'hoarding' of vaccine supplies, but mostly people are just livid with the car crash way the pandemic is being handled here. Vaccinations are still at around just 200-250k a day (at which rate it would take over a year to vaccinate the c80 million population) and are not going up. (Don't believe whatever you may have heard about German efficiency, at least not when it comes to the state bureaucracy).
EDIT: Think I misunderstood your post somewhat. In that you're suggesting the european nations are really fucking themselves over by raising concerns about the AZ vaccine, I completely agree. Germany has only used about 60% of its supply of AZ so far because people are now refusing it in huge numbers.
 
Regional Summary

SOUTH

East up 144 to 488

London up 96 to 604

South East up 123 to 540

South West up 73 to 296


MIDLANDS

East up 56 to 559

West DOWN 59 to 552


NORTH


North East up 73 to 440

Yorkshire up 85 to 1054

And

North West up 116 to 747

So almost everywhere up and NW most in the North but well behind Yorkshire back over 1000.
 
KPXBLN said:
I dunno if this is any consolation, but I don't get the impression people in Germany are laughing at the UK. They're pissed off - maybe rightly, I don't know enough of the details - about perceived 'hoarding' of vaccine supplies, but mostly people are just livid with the car crash way the pandemic is being handled here. Vaccinations are still at around just 200-250k a day (at which rate it would take over a year to vaccinate the c80 million population) and are not going up. (Don't believe whatever you may have heard about German efficiency, at least not when it comes to the state bureaucracy).
EDIT: Think I misunderstood your post somewhat. In that you're suggesting the european nations are really fucking themselves over by raising concerns about the AZ vaccine, I completely agree. Germany has only used about 60% of its supply of AZ so far because people are now refusing it in huge numbers.
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Sad to hear about the problems with vaccinations in Germany. I’ve heard from a mate in the Netherlands and he is frustrated that there are 700k AZ / Oxford doses that the authorities won’t allow to be used.
 
Healdplace said:
Regional Summary

SOUTH

East up 144 to 488

London up 96 to 604

South East up 123 to 540

South West up 73 to 296


MIDLANDS

East up 56 to 559

West DOWN 59 to 552


NORTH


North East up 73 to 440

Yorkshire up 85 to 1054

And

North West up 116 to 747

So almost everywhere up and NW most in the North but well behind Yorkshire back over 1000.
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What are these figures? Cases per X population? What's the X?
 
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