I went for mine on Sunday at the Etihad , I got a bit emotional. Brilliant effort by all involved. Very proud
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How do we feel Sweden with no hard lockdowns but with border lockdowns as such have faired compared to the likes of UK , France , Spain , Italy , Hungary , Belgium to date.
I note that their deaths per millions is lower than that of the countries mentioned above.
I read an interesting report on their approach and noted that they apparently had no structure in place to combat outside PPE and social norms and basic hygiene the regular contact between the generally younger involved in nursing home , day care and home care services and their elderly residents.
over 75 per cent the deaths recorded to date have come from these settings.
Their death rates to covid or at least attributed to covid don't compare that well to their near neighbours but excess deaths do.
An interesting read
Sweden has avoided a COVID-19 lockdown so far: Has its strategy worked?
Sweden has drawn both international praise and criticism for its decision to stay open during the pandemic. ABC News looks at how their strategy has played out.abcnews.go.com
its down to size and population. the uk is a small island and very populated in parts and towns and cities are crowded
but also lifestyles are a big part and they are far more healthy people ? but do other countries really post covid-19 death figures and hold back to make them look like its ok over there. i even think the uk are not reporting the full amount of death that have happened and it could be near 200.000 if the truth is told
They stuffed up looking after the vulnerable as poorly as we did in Victoria I would suggest with our death toll of those in those setting contributing to over 80 per cent of the deaths at an average age of just over the average death age throughout the whole population.
Can you believe the Victorian Government gave the hotel quarantine contract to a company that had no experience in infection control and PPE where security were sourced from Gumtree and were given no training other than how to address those entering the hotels from overseas for their 14 day isolation using the the term sir/madam as opposed to hostage.
30 million out the door and community spread rapidly to nursing homes and day care centres because those looking after those with covid in hospitals and hotels were also looking after residents in those settings mentioned above.
COVID suicide as they say in the classics and we rewarded them by giving the dorks in the Premiers Office a pay rise including his band of merry men and woman as the State was shut down for 6 months.
Apparently the death rate to Covid is around 1 per cent if you contract it if not less but difficult to gauge given weakness in keeping accurate death figures in a number of Countries ( clearly a lot more than tallied in official sources ) countered by the fact that many cases would never be recorded because they were not tested and tor the individual was unaware they had the disease amongst other anomalies.
BlueAnorak
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People see deaths crashing and think they don't really need the vaccination as a result.
Covid vaccines: Probe as hundreds fail to attend appointments
Warning as more than 28% of people invited for a vaccine in one health board area fail to turn up.www.bbc.co.uk
Seems very odd.
The vaccination rates so far in the UK have been absolutely phenomenal because of the perceived risk of death. Now the chance of dying from Covid-19 is reduced the vaccination rates will fall.
We stil need 80-85% of the population to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity for new variants.
The base figure for Kent, SA and Brazilian variants is 72% = 1-(1/base R0 of 3.5 ) so immunisation targets can't fall too much of 80%
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Low population density, food fortification with Vitamin D and they have locked down to some degree since November. Also mask wearing is now recommended in poorly ventilated spaces. They have also done worse than their immediate neighbours who did lock down and where maSk wearing is compulsory.How do we feel Sweden with no hard lockdowns but with border lockdowns as such have faired compared to the likes of UK , France , Spain , Italy , Hungary , Belgium to date.
I note that their deaths per millions is lower than that of the countries mentioned above.
I read an interesting report on their approach and noted that they apparently had no structure in place to combat outside PPE and social norms and basic hygiene the regular contact between the generally younger involved in nursing home , day care and home care services and their elderly residents.
over 75 per cent the deaths recorded to date have come from these settings.
Their death rates to covid or at least attributed to covid don't compare that well to their near neighbours but excess deaths do.
An interesting read
Sweden has avoided a COVID-19 lockdown so far: Has its strategy worked?
Sweden has drawn both international praise and criticism for its decision to stay open during the pandemic. ABC News looks at how their strategy has played out.
I agree Ancoats an island like Australia if you shut borders to overseas travellers and have strict quarantine sites like they do in the NT close to a hospital and the capital City you have 6 recorded deaths as they have.
Over 90 per cent of our land mass has never seen a Covid case yet all states have had hard lockdowns some of them on multiple occasions and currently some 1500km from where 15 people in quarantine in Brisbane people have to wear masks or get fined by the local copper (LOL).
There is talk the whole state will be in lockdown again soon (LOL).
Imagine once you come out of lockdown if you have to lockdown every time one person in the community contracts the virus even though they have been vaccinated.
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We always know when we are close to reopening when Sweden gets mentioned mate.How do we feel Sweden with no hard lockdowns but with border lockdowns as such have faired compared to the likes of UK , France , Spain , Italy , Hungary , Belgium to date.
I note that their deaths per millions is lower than that of the countries mentioned above.
I read an interesting report on their approach and noted that they apparently had no structure in place to combat outside PPE and social norms and basic hygiene the regular contact between the generally younger involved in nursing home , day care and home care services and their elderly residents.
over 75 per cent the deaths recorded to date have come from these settings.
Their death rates to covid or at least attributed to covid don't compare that well to their near neighbours but excess deaths do.
An interesting read
Sweden has avoided a COVID-19 lockdown so far: Has its strategy worked?
Sweden has drawn both international praise and criticism for its decision to stay open during the pandemic. ABC News looks at how their strategy has played out.
Good points well made , population density clearly has an impact on spread and subsequent death toll.
I believe mask wearing while community transmission in an issue should be compulsory but not when the health officials state its confined to quarantine settings.
Be interesting if it can be established how many deaths can be prevented by appropriate mask wearing.
Gee you lot have gone through a lot of sacrifice , stay well , stay safe and stay open once you do.
the real killer here was hard lockdowns multiple times albeit for small periods after 4 months hard lockdown.
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England hospital summary - full report later.
Happily patients have started to fall again, Down 183 in day to 3283. Fall last Tuesday was 256.
Ventilators also down but only by 14 to 518. Fall last week was 29.
Pro rata with lower numbers not a huge difference but certainly a little slower fall now.
North West though after rising is only back to where it was 4 days ago on exactly the same number - 632 patients.
IN that same period Yorkshire has fallen 214 to just 564 after the being nearly 100 in front at the start.
Still needs watching in coming days bt a fall in numbers is a fall and that is what matters.
Happily patients have started to fall again, Down 183 in day to 3283. Fall last Tuesday was 256.
Ventilators also down but only by 14 to 518. Fall last week was 29.
Pro rata with lower numbers not a huge difference but certainly a little slower fall now.
North West though after rising is only back to where it was 4 days ago on exactly the same number - 632 patients.
IN that same period Yorkshire has fallen 214 to just 564 after the being nearly 100 in front at the start.
Still needs watching in coming days bt a fall in numbers is a fall and that is what matters.
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My brother lives in Stockholm and has only just started wearing a mask last week in his work as a hairdresser.
Plus side for him, still been able to eat out, have a drink, play golf, and work continuously even though he’s been at between 50 and 75% of his normal level of clients throughout the pandemic.
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Just been talking to my son in law a deputy head of a Primary School. It's scary how a year of Covid-19 has affected young children. Loads of them have forgotten how to play with each each other.
Scary stuff going forward with the amount of psychological issues that the kids will have going forwards.
Scary stuff going forward with the amount of psychological issues that the kids will have going forwards.
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Does anyone know how many jabs of each type have been delivered in the UK so far?
I was trying to match up UK vaccines with yellow card data.
All I know is 594 folks have died after having a jab out of 34,518,958 jabs or 0.00001731%
That's a lot less than the chance of dying of old age in a year if your over 50. Less than dying on a particular day too.
UK deaths after having a vaccine jab:
259 Pfizer
356 O-AZ
9 Unknown
I was trying to match up UK vaccines with yellow card data.
All I know is 594 folks have died after having a jab out of 34,518,958 jabs or 0.00001731%
That's a lot less than the chance of dying of old age in a year if your over 50. Less than dying on a particular day too.
UK deaths after having a vaccine jab:
259 Pfizer
356 O-AZ
9 Unknown
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Agreed. I have noticed in my 19 month old how he is behind on his social development. It’s awful for babies development to not have all the interaction they would normally have, not just with others their age, but also other adults. We are fortunate that my in-laws are retired and have been able to provide childcare through the week, but we have taken the decision to put him in nursery 2 days a week even though we don’t have to. £450 per month for just 2 days a week, so it’s like a second mortgage, but I feel it’s vital for him to now try to catch up with what he’s missed. We have no clue how this could be affecting our children’s futures.
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Not just young children either. I work at a Secondary and I reckon we've had more proper fights in the few months we were in before Christmas and again this past couple of weeks than in the 3 or 4 years I've worked there!
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Look at those dickheads in Nottingham. British people are some of the worst so ignorant. Sooner I get out this country the better
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HOSPITAL DATA
A little better today with the fall resuming all be it at a slower pace and some areas more than others. Including the North West. And UK patients fall below 4000 today also which is very good news.
UK total:
Patients down to 3984 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 35, 264 in 71 days) :- lowest since 7 October
Ventilators down to 570 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3507 in 65 days) : lowest since 14 October
England only:-
ADMISSIONS:-
221 Covid admissions (28 March) following 217, 245, 283, 277, 295, 294, 279 in the week before.
PATIENTS:-
Patients down in day by 183 to 3283 v 4245 last week :- lowest since 9 October.
Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 31, 053 in 71 days)
Ventilators: down 14 to 518 v 647 last week :- lowest since 18 October
Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3218 in 65 days)
Regions:
Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week
East Down 19 to 260 v 382 // down 5 to 46 v 71
London down 16 to 717 v 876 // down 4 to 154 v 198
Midlands down 40 to 669 v 896 // down 3 to 117 v 138
NE & Yorks down 44 to 564 v 675 // UP 3 to 80 v 93
North West down 16 to 632 v 749 // down 3 to 71 v 85
South East down 43 to 321 v 506 // down 3 to 34 v 41
South West down 5 to 120 v 161 // UP 1 to 16 v 24
A little better today with the fall resuming all be it at a slower pace and some areas more than others. Including the North West. And UK patients fall below 4000 today also which is very good news.
UK total:
Patients down to 3984 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 35, 264 in 71 days) :- lowest since 7 October
Ventilators down to 570 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3507 in 65 days) : lowest since 14 October
England only:-
ADMISSIONS:-
221 Covid admissions (28 March) following 217, 245, 283, 277, 295, 294, 279 in the week before.
PATIENTS:-
Patients down in day by 183 to 3283 v 4245 last week :- lowest since 9 October.
Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 31, 053 in 71 days)
Ventilators: down 14 to 518 v 647 last week :- lowest since 18 October
Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3218 in 65 days)
Regions:
Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week
East Down 19 to 260 v 382 // down 5 to 46 v 71
London down 16 to 717 v 876 // down 4 to 154 v 198
Midlands down 40 to 669 v 896 // down 3 to 117 v 138
NE & Yorks down 44 to 564 v 675 // UP 3 to 80 v 93
North West down 16 to 632 v 749 // down 3 to 71 v 85
South East down 43 to 321 v 506 // down 3 to 34 v 41
South West down 5 to 120 v 161 // UP 1 to 16 v 24
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My lad was in that park, being a good boy chilling with his housemates, said it was carnage.
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