Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Manchester la la la la said:
For anyone who's had covid can I just check something?

My mrs came down with a bug the other day. Sore throat, cough, runny nose, hot to touch but no temp. Currently ill with it but has done two lateral flows... both negative

I've started to come down with the same symptons apart from the runny nose but other than feeling a bit fatigued I feel fine (touch wood)

Are lateral flows accurate? I'd get myself tested but the mrs has done two negative ones which makes me think its just a usual cold/bug so I havent done one yet.

Cheers blues!
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You should not be using LFTs if symptomatic mate. I’d book in for a PCR
 
Oscar de la hoya 48yrs., in hospital with Covid, double jabbed..had to pull out of comeback fight..
 
SilverFox2 said:
Thanks for taking time out of your stressful time to write Saddleworth2.
Surely England is aware of the problems in Scotland. If not why not, if so why no action?
Reminds me so much of when Italy and here in Spain were a few weeks ahead of UK RE particularly elderly being affected. They did not heed the warning then, seems your experiences may be similarly ignored.
Well done my friend, hope everything improves
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my one hope is that your school testing regime is better than ours as that might make a difference.
thanks for your kind words. They are appreciated.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
my one hope is that your school testing regime is better than ours as that might make a difference.
thanks for your kind words. They are appreciated.
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I suppose they are belt and braces here despite very few infections coming via schools where rigorously enforced road closures with Police enforcing distancing etc has been the norm for arrivals and playtime.
They are vaccinating everyone and have started boosters.
We hope it will be enough after losing a good preportion of our loved elderly through being ill prepared.
 
Manchester la la la la said:
For anyone who's had covid can I just check something?

My mrs came down with a bug the other day. Sore throat, cough, runny nose, hot to touch but no temp. Currently ill with it but has done two lateral flows... both negative

I've started to come down with the same symptons apart from the runny nose but other than feeling a bit fatigued I feel fine (touch wood)

Are lateral flows accurate? I'd get myself tested but the mrs has done two negative ones which makes me think its just a usual cold/bug so I havent done one yet.

Cheers blues!
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There's so many different symptoms but originally the experts said a runny nose was not a sign of Covid. I've had it at least once, think twice but couldn't get a test in March 2020 and didn't have the flu like symptoms, mine were:

lethargy
Severe coughing
Loss of appetite
Reduced taste and smell (second time a glass of coke tasted like cigarette ash)
Crashing headache
Fever (first time, didn't sleep in bed for 5 nights as I couldn't lie down without hallucinating)
Sorry about this one, diarrhoea
Second time, in bed very early as I was knackered for about 8 weeks after I'd tested negative

As advised get a PCR test for the pair of you

Good luck, hope all goes well.
 
Absolute fucking lunatics on this thread. I read it every day to amuse myself at the hysteria and paranoia and collective back slapping. The way you all get giddy when an anti-vaxxer dies is really sweet.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Thanks for taking time out of your stressful time to write Saddleworth2.
Surely England is aware of the problems in Scotland. If not why not, if so why no action?
Reminds me so much of when Italy and here in Spain were a few weeks ahead of UK RE particularly elderly being affected. They did not heed the warning then, seems your experiences may be similarly ignored.
Well done my friend, hope everything improves
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Those U35 don't want the vaccine in enough numbers to minimise Covid infections in late Autumn to prevent a serious surge in cases.
Sadly, as such, they need to catch it now and school children catching it will be a side effect of this.
Sorry to say but the difference in case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths in the vulnerable in late Autumn will be immense (compare Flu deaths in September with January for details of the difference.
Sadly, it is now a numbers game. For every one who doesn't catch it now or get vaccinated, 10 will catch it in Late Autumn and Winter.
 
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Kiss this guy said:
Absolute fucking lunatics on this thread. I read it every day to amuse myself at the hysteria and paranoia and collective back slapping. The way you all get giddy when an anti-vaxxer dies is really sweet.
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As many different attitudes to covid as there are people. Some are probably over cautious, but those whose livelihoods and life plans have been devastated by the pandemic are in their own hysterical form of denial too.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Those U35 don't want the vaccine in enough numbers to minimise Covid infections in late Autumn to prevent a serious surge in cases.
Sadly, as such, they need to catch it now and school children catching it will be a side effect of this.
Sorry to say but the difference in case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths in the vulnerable in late Autumn will be immense (compare Flu deaths in September with January for details of the difference.
Sadly, it is a numbers game. For every one who catches it now, 10 will catch it in Late Autumn and Winter.
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I would fully agree with that if it were true you can only catch it once. But it is increasingly obvious Covid is like a killer version of the cold. You can catch it multiple times. Herd immunity will not happen ever. It will never be gone. We can only mitigate and live with it as best as possible.

It probably is part of the calculation in why we ended restrictions and why we will likely not reimpose them even if we get 80,000 cases in October/November and why we are not rushing to vaccinate the young - that catching it now is the easiest way to get some degree of immunity.

It may work.

The only real risk is a new mutation that is more serious however many vaccines you have had or how many times you have created some personal immunity (T cells etc) by catching it.

If that happens - and we all hope it never will and Covid will just find a mutation that suits it and lets it infect everyone with minimal impact on health - it is probably the only time we might see lockdown again.

The future for the next few years is living with Covid and trying to live as if it is not there. A harder transition for the vulnerable than for the rest. Which is why we will likely focus future care on the most vulnerable and use surplus vaccines to try to seed the world with what immunity is possible to minimise the risk of a truly awful variant turning up by chance.

Or at least that would be the most sensible path to take. By no means necessarily the same thing as what will happen sadly.
 
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Further to my post above THE key thing we should be doing NOW is pushing the world on trying to prevent via an urgent global conference and strategy emerging from that to stop the NEXT pandemic from emerging.

We cannot live as we did in 2020 without awareness of the threat that scientists have been pointing out for years.

That decade old movie Contagion could have been scripted by Nostradamus - indeed it is miles closer to reality than most of the predictions he made - proving we could have seen this coming years ago and basically drifted along and let it happen.

It could have been far worse. There are viruses that had they hit like Covid could have killed a third of the population of the UK or even worse and literally knocked the west back to medieval levels.

We cannot dawdle and must be much more ready for Covid - the sequel.

The danger is the stress of Covid and 'getting away with it' as to a large degree we have thanks to science makes us feel too secure when the truth is it should make us far more aware of the cliff we are standing on the edge of watching it crumble beneath our feet.
 
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Healdplace said:
I would fully agree with that if it were true you can only catch it once. But it is increasingly obvious Covid is like a killer version of the cold. You can catch it multiple times. Herd immunity will not happen ever. It will never be gone. We can only mitigate and live with it as best as possible.

It probably is part of the calculation in why we ended restrictions and why we will likely not reimpose them even if we get 80,000 cases in October/November and why we are not rushing to vaccinate the young - that catching it now is the easiest way to get some degree of immunity.

It may work.

The only real risk is a new mutation that is more serious however many vaccines you have had or how many times you have created some personal immunity (T cells etc) by catching it.

If that happens - and we all hope it never will and Covid will just find a mutation that suits it and lets it infect everyone with minimal impact on health - it is probably the only time we might see lockdown again.

The future for the next few years is living with Covid and trying to live as if it is not there. A harder transition for the vulnerable than for the rest. Which is why we will likely focus future care on the most vulnerable and use surplus vaccines to try to seed the world with what immunity is possible to minimise the risk of a truly awful variant turning up by chance.

Or at least that would be the most sensible path to take.
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I agree with you to sone degree. Of those who are vaccinated the numbers needing hospital admission is very small.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Those U35 don't want the vaccine in enough numbers to minimise Covid infections in late Autumn to prevent a serious surge in cases.
Sadly, as such, they need to catch it now and school children catching it will be a side effect of this.
Sorry to say but the difference in case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths in the vulnerable in late Autumn will be immense (compare Flu deaths in September with January for details of the difference.
Sadly, it is now a numbers game. For every one who doesn't catch it now or get vaccinated, 10 will catch it in Late Autumn and Winter.
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Thanks for reply BA.
So are we beyond the need or capability to protect the vulnerable?

Is it now just a combo of vaccination or catching covid that is being relied on?
 
BlueAnorak said:
I agree with you to sone degree. Of those who are vaccinated the numbers needing hospital admission is very small.
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They are and those are the key numbers which is why I post them up to date every week day (as they do not bother publishing them at weekends). And they are usually a day or so out of date on all the news channels too as nobody bothers to do more than report the given number not the up to date one. Which bothers me as it suggests they do not think them important enough to find out.

Hospital trends right now are way more important than case numbers.

They are happily still fairly flat and have been for weeks - though they went up in Scotland inevitably with the big rise in cases - though not hugely it is good to note - and likely will in England now.

As of now we are only at just over 7000 in hospital and 1000 on ventilators in the UK and the NW has just under 1000 patients (though it had started rising again last week) and 118 on ventilators.

This is FAR below where we were in January with case numbers as now. As in 40,000 in hospital and 4000 on ventilators.

Entirely due to the vaccine and - probably - some degree of immunity from those who had caught it already and not getting it as bad the second time around as is the most common but not universal response.
 
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Be prepared for a rough autumn and winter..vaccination or no vaccination delta going to really kick ass..I do hope im wrong?
 
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The FALL was a one day wonder, sadly!


Predicted cases back UP - though just by 89 - to 52, 266

Ongoing symptomatic cases also UP after I day of falling.

UP to 738, 430 by 1337 FROM 737, 093
 
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