Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Looks like a lot of the European plan B-type countries are now struggling with a surge in cases, whilst the UK meanders on at a much lower level.

Much lower level? Really? How many Western European Countries is our level "much lower than"?

We still have a higher case rate than most of these countries, and a higher death rate than almost all of them.

The main difference seems to be that these European countries care more about deaths than we do.
 
Germany, Belgium and Holland all appear to have higher rates than the UK and many more in Central Europe.

Yeah, for lower vaxxed countries absolutely, and some countries are now higher than us.

Unlike us, they are taking action to respond.

But there are NOT "many" countries following "plan B" who we are at a "much lower level" than. It might happen, but it hasn't yet.
 
Yeah, for lower vaxxed countries absolutely, and some countries are now higher than us.

Unlike us, they are taking action to respond.

But there are NOT "many" countries following "plan B" who we are at a "much lower level" than. It might happen, but it hasn't yet.

Pardon me for saying but you seem obsessed with constantly saying we are doing worse than europe?
 
Much lower level? Really? How many Western European Countries is our level "much lower than"?

We still have a higher case rate than most of these countries, and a higher death rate than almost all of them.

The main difference seems to be that these European countries care more about deaths than we do.
Germany reported 299 deaths the other day. If I'm not mistaken, that's bigger than any daily total we've reported since the spring. And while they're imposing some restrictions they remain largely open for now. They also reported over 60,000 Covid cases yesterday too - presumably from fewer tests than we do so God only knows what the true figure is, plus the case numbers don't appear to have even peaked yet (meaning death numbers certainly won't have either) and as with many other European countries they seem to still be rising exponentially (one of your favourite words!). Despite all that, they've not gone into lockdown yet and I think they'd be loathe to impose one, although the way things are going that might actually have to be a consideration.

In contrast to that, it can be reasonably argued that we ARE meandering away with case numbers falling and rising but whichever direction they're going in, it's not been anything like exponential and we still haven't touched the daily case numbers that were being recorded around the time that all restrictions were lifted in July. Why the trend is different over here compared to what's happening on much of the continent now, I've no idea, especially as many of those countries are a lot stricter regarding mask wearing/needing Covid passports to get into bars and restaurants, etc, but I wouldn't mind betting that a larger percentage of UK citizens have a level of immunity through either having had Covid/having been vaccinated than pretty much every other country in Europe and that's why our trend is different to what we're seeing across the continent.
 
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Well my pcr test results came back positive, thats me confined to a bedroom in our house for another 8 days at least.
Mightly pissed off to be honest, there was apparently two other confirmed cases on the site Ive been working on in town, and nobody said anything. Just selfish beyond belief some folk and dont give a shit about anyone else.
Is this not a criminal offence? Surely they can be fined for that?
 
Germany reported 299 deaths the other day. If I'm not mistaken, that's bigger than any daily total we've reported since the spring. And while they're imposing some restrictions they remain largely open for now. They also reported over 60,000 Covid cases yesterday too - presumably from fewer tests than we do so God only knows what the true figure is, plus the case numbers don't appear to have even peaked yet (meaning death numbers certainly won't have either) and as with many other European countries they seem to still be rising exponentially (one of your favourite words!). Despite all that, they've not gone into lockdown yet and I think they'd be loathe to impose one, although the way things are going that might actually have to be a consideration.

In contrast to that, it can be reasonably argued that we ARE meandering away with case numbers falling and rising but whichever direction they're going in, it's not been anything like exponential and we still haven't touched the daily case numbers that were being recorded around the time that all restrictions were lifted in July. Why the trend is different over here compared to what's happening on much of the continent now, I've no idea, especially as many of those countries are a lot stricter regarding mask wearing/needing Covid passports to get into bars and restaurants, etc, but I wouldn't mind betting that a larger percentage of UK citizens have a level of immunity through either having had Covid/having been vaccinated than pretty much every other country in Europe and that's why our trend is different to what we're seeing across the continent.

Germany is an interesting one to watch in data terms. from World in data its 292 deaths they reported which is the same as our highest.

but similar proportion of fully vaccinated, 67.09 ( Germany ) vs 67.54 ( UK )

Deaths wise Germany are very much spiking compared to us. however have been a tiny fraction of our death rate since July. Will be interesting to see a like for like 12 month comparison next July to see which way of handling things actually turns out to be the right way.

in a few years time there will be a lot of eyes looking back at how each country handled things.
 
If there was any doubt about masks. and there are some anti maskers on here.

Mask Wearing Cuts New Covid-19 Cases By 53%—It’s The Best Public Health Measure Against The Virus, Study Finds​


 
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