Coronavirus (2021) thread

[hammocity]

Great information. Do you know what measures were put in place in those days to ease the problem?

A coffin mostly I think

 

[M18CTID]

I do not think they did. We’ve had pretty good numbers and a decent level of immunity since but this new variant is a big spanner in the works.

I don’t think they did either. I think it was actually a decent decision in hindsight. But I do think mandatory mask-wearing in certain situations should’ve continued.

 

[M18CTID]

Not to mention North Korea, let’s just all be grateful that our government are so kind to us.

Mate, I’m no fan of this government but all those skriking about their freedoms ought to be grateful that Johnson is a spineless fuckwit and should try living in many other European countries where things were/are a lot stricter. During Greece’s lockdown, for example, you had to text a government number with a valid reason to leave your house.

 

[hammocity]

Great information. Do you know what measures were put in place in those days to ease the problem?

I think it was on here that someone posted old sepia photos of people wearing masks during Spanish flu. Seems like the mask has been the go to prevention for the last century, as a kid I remember wearing a mask when the smog was really bad, along these lines.

 

[Gray]

I think it was on here that someone posted old sepia photos of people wearing masks during Spanish flu. Seems like the mask has been the go to prevention for the last century, as a kid I remember wearing a mask when the smog was really bad, along these lines.

Bloody hell the smog I remember that well. I was not long out of school and had started work in Broadheath where I cycled there and back each day. I left work one winters night and you could barely see your hand in front of your face I used my scarf as an emergency mask. As I cycled down Navigation road back to Timperley I was followed by a line of cars the first one was using my rear bicycle light as a guide and the rest were playing follow my leader. I hope they all made it home safely.

 

[SWP's back]

We all pay! Maybe different amount but we all pay in

If a close friend or relative hadnt been jabbed and fell ill youd say “fuck him let him die at home?” Doubt it

I don’t hang around with science deniers. I’ve blocked enough of the cunts.

Why would they want medical help after the event? Prevention is always better than the cure.

And we don’t “all pay”. Smokers and drinkers pay a fuck load more tax, mostly to fund the system that will then likely have to look after them. Certainly that’s true of tobacco taxation.

 

[SWP's back]

Ignore the clowns , hosiptal numbers not though the roof like last year , it’s obvious bringing the rules in cause of the government party’s last year , our freedoms been taking away

but it’s ok if you fat , drink , smoke that not crippling nhs but not getting a vaccine you can be left to die

Yeah because a good government should ONLY react after the shit has hit the fan.

There’s no point in planning ahead to ensure capacity in hospitals. Much better to wait until they run out of beds.

But back in the real world….

 

[Healdplace]

Apparently it took 2 years for the Spanish flu that killed berween 25m and 50m of the World’s population to die out. Several waves, then became “normal”flu from around 1920.

In a letter to the Man City program in March of 1919 Healdplace’s Grandma stated Tameside was the the worst hit followed by Bury, Oldham, Trafford and Salford.

No doubt she would have. I learned a lot from her.

Though my Grandma was a Burnley supporter. Walked 20 miles with my mum to watch them play.I think it was a punishment for being naughty. Not the walk. She loved that. She became a city fan after marrying my dad.

More seriously, several of my gran's family died in that outbreak. All of them late teens and early 20s when it happened. As was my gran.

Older people had a less severe response as they had been exposed naurally to all sorts of viruses the younger ones had not I presume in an age where medication was very much more limited.

The whole concept of self isolation and social distancing emerged at that time from the chief medic in Manchester who pioneered lockdown.

Having seen the attempts last night to try to drive me off here in the other thread I kind of wonder what it might have been like now if it was not us oldies who were dying regularly but the ones who now seem to think it does not matter if they get vaccinated or not as they are not like their gran and ready to conk out but have a body with no natural immunity and so dropping like flies before their lives had begun.

Anti vaxxers would be rather few on the ground I suspect.

 

[SWP's back]

Stolen from Reddit.

This is some poor ****’s bill for 60 days of intubation following covid:



Maybe a few more mouth breathers would get jabbed if they knew that getting poorly from covid would bankrupt them.

 

[Bluesince1979]

I don’t hang around with science deniers. I’ve blocked enough of the cunts.

Why would they want medical help after the event? Prevention is always better than the cure.

And we don’t “all pay”. Smokers and drinkers pay a fuck load more tax, mostly to fund the system that will then likely have to look after them. Certainly that’s true of tobacco taxation.

What if , hypothetically , it was your mum who wasnt jabbed up? Is she blocked out your life?

never heard so much shite about “letting people die”. As if you and others would make that decision

and we do “all pay” , we all contribute. Some more some less. Id say a man on a million a year , non smoker, pays more in than a 10 fags a day on minimum wage man

 

[Bluesince1979]

Ignore the clowns , hosiptal numbers not though the roof like last year , it’s obvious bringing the rules in cause of the government party’s last year , our freedoms been taking away

but it’s ok if you fat , drink , smoke that not crippling nhs but not getting a vaccine you can be left to die

Its some mad on here. Remind me of the “if it was me id have battered him” sort of bullshitters.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Stolen from Reddit.

This is some poor ****’s bill for 60 days of intubation following covid:

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Maybe a few more mouth breathers would get jabbed if they knew that getting poorly from covid would bankrupt them.

For an intelligent man you let yourself down with the childish jibes

 

[Healdplace]

Perhaps Omicron is really an anagram not of no crimbo as doing the rounds out there but really - I c moron - and the switch to younger people catching it is a cunning plan to say careful what you wished for matey to those presuming invulnerability.

After all the virus needs to infect people and if we let all the oldies die then it has to turn elsewhere for victims.

We really are all in this together and should act as if we are. All lives need protecting not just some.

 

[SWP's back]

What if , hypothetically , it was your mum who wasnt jabbed up? Is she blocked out your life?

never heard so much shite about “letting people die”. As if you and others would make that decision

and we do “all pay” , we all contribute. Some more some less. Id say a man on a million a year , non smoker, pays more in than a 10 fags a day on minimum wage man

I had it out with my mother in the first place which is why she’s treble jabbed. I care enough to educate those I love about the dangers of covid and safety of the vaccine. That’s why I’m happy enough for you to not be jabbed at all.

And it wouldn’t me “letting them die”, they chose that for themselves when they state idiotic statements like “I don’t need a vaccine because I have an immune system”.

So tell me, why should those that choose not to have the vaccine be given care? It’s obvious they will because that’s what’s happening. But why is it morally right to care for those that chose to put themselves at risk through their own stupidity? As for hearing so much shite, I’d imagine you get that often enough listening to yourself.

 

[Quad]

Its some mad on here. Remind me of the “if it was me id have battered him” sort of bullshitters.

I’m double jabbed but really think it’s a piss take , remember at the start you don’t need masks , then you do , sick of the lying , there was a graph on the conference was 18 unjabbed out of 150k ended up in hospital and 7 for jabbed

totally understand people shield , but if you high risk limit your chances of getting it , the virus is here to stay

 

[SWP's back]

For an intelligent man you let yourself down with the childish jibes

Not at all, I’m just over idiots prolonging the pandemic.

I was listening to a doctor being interviewed about the state of the pandemic in India. He was talking about how many thousands died for a simple lack of oxygen. He was asked about anti-vax movements in India and he said “there are none. We can’t afford to be anti-vaccine over here”.

 

[grunge]

I think it was on here that someone posted old sepia photos of people wearing masks during Spanish flu. Seems like the mask has been the go to prevention for the last century, as a kid I remember wearing a mask when the smog was really bad, along these lines.

'Mask Slackers' and 'Deadly' Spit: The 1918 Flu Campaigns to Shame People Into Following New Rules | HISTORY

Propaganda in PSAs, newspapers, posters and streetcar signs urged Americans to follow health guidelines.

www.history.com

There were anti maskers back then too.

 

[hammocity]

Bloody hell the smog I remember that well. I was not long out of school and had started work in Broadheath where I cycled there and back each day. I left work one winters night and you could barely see your hand in front of your face I used my scarf as an emergency mask. As I cycled down Navigation road back to Timperley I was followed by a line of cars the first one was using my rear bicycle light as a guide and the rest were playing follow my leader. I hope they all made it home safely.

Can relate to that, also electric trolley buses that connected to overhead lines used to spark, in the smog it accentuated the brightness of the spark, earliest childhood memories on those really cold, smoggy winters days being walked to School by my mum.

 

[M18CTID]

What if , hypothetically , it was your mum who wasnt jabbed up? Is she blocked out your life?

never heard so much shite about “letting people die”. As if you and others would make that decision

and we do “all pay” , we all contribute. Some more some less. Id say a man on a million a year , non smoker, pays more in than a 10 fags a day on minimum wage man

Funnily enough, it’s the Covidiots who appear to be burning bridges the most. One anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist I know was crying on FB last week, saying if you can’t see by now that it’s all about controlling us then everyone who disagrees with him should unfriend him. I’m not sure why he was driven to make such an extreme statement that potentially could’ve led to him losing 90% of the people on his friends list but he’s probably pissed off that he can’t currently go to his villa in Spain as you need to be double jabbed to get in.

He was also saying that those who comply are part of the problem. This is the same dickhead who happily complied with the testing requirements to get to his gaff in Spain in September, proclaimed to everyone on FB that he’d jacked in his United season ticket on the grounds that they wanted a negative LFT or proof of double jab to get in, yet it turns out that he didn’t bin it off in the end but conveniently forgot to update all his fellow whoppers on FB, and to top it all off he works for Network Rail who just happen to be government owned and no doubt he’ll be complying with any Covid measures his employer has put in place. So all in all, he complies as much as the rest of us and I hope Spain bans the bullshitting **** from entering their country not just for this month but for the next 10 fucking years.

 

[Healdplace]

I’m double jabbed but really think it’s a piss take , remember at the start you don’t need masks , then you do , sick of the lying , there was a graph on the conference was 18 unjabbed out of 150k ended up in hospital and 7 for jabbed

totally understand people shield , but if you high risk limit your chances of getting it , the virus is here to stay

But - more seriously than I was trying to say above - I agree the virus is not going away now and we will have to find an equilibrium with it - but the number of mutations it is going through show how surprisingly adaptable it is. We cannot presume vulnerability will remain in stasis. It could mutate (and may even already have done so) into a form targetting the ones it has not yet got to and might mutate further in ways that make illness more serious in them).

We have to react to it with our knowledge and science and do things that protect the community not just some.

I agree we also need society to live as normally as possible now. I do not expect we will ever see a full lockdown again unless a doomsday variant arrives. Which I doubt it will. But could by chance. In the meantime we have to take some measures in mid winter to keep the NHS able to deal with the thousand other things in this period that people will need it for. Being swamped by patients who likely will survive may still kill others by defaut. That is why we are doing what we are now. To slow this highly infectious wave down. Not to stop it. That is now impossible.

If we had 500,000 cases a day not 50,000 it will not matter how much milder it usually is if that fills up all beds in a few days by sheer weight of numbers. As 1% of a million is still 10,000 and at that rate the NHS will be swamped in a week.