Coronavirus (2021) thread

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This Government would be loathed to put the country in lockdown before Christmas. It would be suicide, politically speaking, and I’m unconvinced it would now make a blind bit of difference. They’re only prolonging not preventing anything at this point, so we’ll see more window dressing to give the impression that we’re in control, but the reality is that nature has the upper hand over all of us.
No argument there, but my point still stands - social responsibility will save lives.

The government have made it all about Christmas for months, which is dumb to put two days of eating and drinking over people’s lives, but nothing they do surprises me anymore.
 
We’ve told 5 year olds that they were likely to ‘kill their grannies’ and now we tell them that they’re ‘superspreaders’. Never in history have we sacrificed the children to ‘save’ the elderly. I say save but the sheer numbers we allowed to die lonely and confused deaths last year, not allowing them to hold hands or even see their loved ones, is a scandal we should never forget.
My 81 year old mum has just told her grandchildren she doesn't want to see them (and her new great granddaughter) this Christmas due to Covid. Nothing I or my GP cousin can say changes her mind. She's hardly left the house since last March.

The impact on mental health of this pandemic is immeasurable.
 
Did anyone see dispatches? Apparently Pfizer costs 80p per dose to make and we’re currently paying them £22 per dose. That’s the highest reported price paid by any government in the world. £2.6 billion that is. No wonder they’re talking about a 4th dose!

Of course, we binned off AZ who were selling to us at cost price…

Daily covid briefings brought to you by “Pfizer”…….
 
No argument there, but my point still stands - social responsibility will save lives.

The government have made it all about Christmas for months, which is dumb to put two days of eating and drinking over people’s lives, but nothing they do surprises me anymore.

Rather flippant to describe a family Christmas and the joy that brings as 2 days of eating and drinking and suggesting it will cost lives.

How dare people want such a selfish thing!
 
No argument there, but my point still stands - social responsibility will save lives.

The government have made it all about Christmas for months, which is dumb to put two days of eating and drinking over people’s lives, but nothing they do surprises me anymore.
I don’t disagree that social distancing and mask wearing can have mitigating effects, but we all need to appreciate that what might have worked against Delta may prove almost wholly ineffective against Omicron: it’s so bloody good at what it does. We can ask people to ‘rein it in’, but that means different things to different people, and at this time of the year many people are so drunk they don’t even know they’re on a horse!
 
Yeah i get that. But economically i cant see many positives coming about from any further lock downs etc

No, there aren’t, but I was thinking more long term, ie in how we live with Covid and how we and society change to coexist with Covid. Mask wearing becoming more common place. How we dine out - less covers/higher prices. Table service at pubs etc.

Alternatively Covid may burn itself out with this variant and we can be done with this shit :)
 
We are meant to be having Xmas dinner at my sisters.
My sister in law is getting really concerned that my two 20 something lads have not been had the booster and live lives a 21 and 23 years people their age live. We have 4 parents over 85, all with underlying health conditions.

I have suggested we all have test the day before.
All ok if all are negative but what if one of us is postive.

Do the other 10 have Xmas dinner and the other parties alone!

Six of us have tickets for Boxing Day as well.
 
I'm seeing the same arguments/opinions from the same posters as last year.
You think they would have realised that there are no right or wrong answers to this virus.
Mistakes have been made, and as i said last year many more will be made.

Every European nation last year that seemed to have done better than us has since had their own uncontrollable wave(s).

Some argue the government is too controlling, while the others think they dither and don't do enough with restrictions.

My sister in-law has just had Covid. She had had the two vaccines and was due her booster.
She is on the vulnerable list as she is in her sixties with many severe health problems and on blood thinners (amongst other medications) and has many allergies.

Basically, we viewed it, if she got Covid, she was a goner.

Well she got it last week, and apart from a sniffle and feeling a bit under the weather, she has recovered fine.

I firmly believe without the first two vaccines doses, she would have died.
As it is, i cannot be more grateful for the speed and and urgency of our vaccine program.
It has allowed a brief period of freedoms that other nations haven't had. Yes we may now have to tighten up, and lose some freedoms for a while, but so what?

Those in charge have an impossible job. They cannot do right from wrong for some people. Because everybody has an opinion (mainly an uneducated one) on how things should be done.
 
some shit in the express that omricon can bind with rats and may cause a super plauge,fuck me talk about fear mongering

while there is zero point in having an article about it, and why choose rats? it’s not wrong technically.

This virus has shown it can jump to animals and back a quite freely, Pets have caught it. Denmark mink last year? Some discussion if omicron actually jumped to animals and back for the level of mutation.
 
The main thing with covid is that there is a number of cases, and I don't know what that number is but it exists, where it collapses the health care. We are all lucky enough to have lived in an era where we don't know what that looks like, but it's mass graves, ambulances not turning up to crashes on the motorway, people dying of heart attacks on the kitchen floors and having to be covered for days until the undertakers have capacity to do something. It doesn't matter if you believe in covid or not, there is a number that exists where that happens, and we have been closer to that number than some of us would like to admit. At that point it really doesn't matter about ideology or talking tough or prioritising the economy: that is a number we want to avoid. If there are restrictions, it will be to avoid those scenarios.
 
No, there aren’t, but I was thinking more long term, ie in how we live with Covid and how we and society change to coexist with Covid. Mask wearing becoming more common place. How we dine out - less covers/higher prices. Table service at pubs etc.

Alternatively Covid may burn itself out with this variant and we can be done with this shit :)
I fuckin hope its the latter mate
 
The main thing with covid is that there is a number of cases, and I don't know what that number is but it exists, where it collapses the health care. We are all lucky enough to have lived in an era where we don't know what that looks like, but it's mass graves, ambulances not turning up to crashes on the motorway, people dying of heart attacks on the kitchen floors and having to be covered for days until the undertakers have capacity to do something. It doesn't matter if you believe in covid or not, there is a number that exists where that happens, and we have been closer to that number than some of us would like to admit. At that point it really doesn't matter about ideology or talking tough or prioritising the economy: that is a number we want to avoid. If there are restrictions, it will be to avoid those scenarios.

We’re not even remotely near that scenario.

Get a fucking grip.
 
The main thing with covid is that there is a number of cases, and I don't know what that number is but it exists, where it collapses the health care. We are all lucky enough to have lived in an era where we don't know what that looks like, but it's mass graves, ambulances not turning up to crashes on the motorway, people dying of heart attacks on the kitchen floors and having to be covered for days until the undertakers have capacity to do something. It doesn't matter if you believe in covid or not, there is a number that exists where that happens, and we have been closer to that number than some of us would like to admit. At that point it really doesn't matter about ideology or talking tough or prioritising the economy: that is a number we want to avoid. If there are restrictions, it will be to avoid those scenarios.

Is this an audition for a place next to Bozo at a breifing?
 
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