Coronavirus (2022) thread

[willipp]

Has anyone taken kids to Greece recently? Going in august with an 11 and 5 year old and seeing mixed messages on whether we need them vaccinated or if not, whether they need tests before we go.

 

[BlueHammer85]

COVID-19 cases have surged by nearly half in a week, official figures show.

Last week, an estimated 1,415,600 people had coronavirus in the UK, up 425,800 or 43%.


This is the highest estimate for infections since the start of May, but is still well below the record high of 4.9 million at the end of March.

Cases rose in all four nations of the UK - and increased across all ages groups.

 

[grunge]

COVID-19 cases have surged by nearly half in a week, official figures show.

Last week, an estimated 1,415,600 people had coronavirus in the UK, up 425,800 or 43%.


This is the highest estimate for infections since the start of May, but is still well below the record high of 4.9 million at the end of March.

Cases rose in all four nations of the UK - and increased across all ages groups.

Its being blamed on the Jubilee so will be intersting to see if it continues to rise.

I do think we're in for quite a few waves until it settles down with the way immunity wains seemingly like clockwork every 3/4 months

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

COVID-19 cases have surged by nearly half in a week, official figures show.

Last week, an estimated 1,415,600 people had coronavirus in the UK, up 425,800 or 43%.


This is the highest estimate for infections since the start of May, but is still well below the record high of 4.9 million at the end of March.

Cases rose in all four nations of the UK - and increased across all ages groups.

The Royal wave.

 

[Healdplace]

Its being blamed on the Jubilee so will be intersting to see if it continues to rise.

I do think we're in for quite a few waves until it settles down with the way immunity wains seemingly like clockwork every 3/4 months

I posted in the other thread that briefly started a week or two ago as I did not want to revive this one.

But it was clear then that it had started before the Jubilee and has been increasing in pace since.
So it is without doubt the two new Omicron variants driving it along with the opening up and nicer weather.

Cases have been rising slowly and steadily for over 3 weeks now. But more significantly hospital numbers are going up.It bottomed out in England at 3800 three weeks ago and has been rising daily ever since.

Over the past weekend England patients rose from 5037 to 5726 - the biggest weekend jump in several weeks and double last weekend's increase.

Ventilators also rose from 120 to 150 in the same past weekend. Though again that remains low.

Deaths are inevitably going to follow though still also keeping fairly low. And whilst these are not huge numbers in any area and so there is no sign these variants are worse than the previous Omicron ones we are having a real wave and are not yet at its peak.

Zoe numbers are still going upwards at a pretty steady rate and they estimate 193,767 cases today and an ongoing total of 2,142,385 cases active today. Though they have far fewer numbers taking part in the app now and so these are more unreliable than they have ever been. Only Stockport of the 10 GM boroughs has enough people in the Zoe App to even make an estimate possible. They have the highest numbers in the 10 GM boroughs in the real government numbers too here again. Though still at modest levels only. But like the other 9 boroughs going upward.

Not going to post regular daily updates again.Just occasional ones like this if someone updates this thread for other reasons and there is any news worth adding.

 

[FantasyIreland]

This will be a very welcome bump for some.....

 

[Healdplace]

This will be a very welcome bump for some.....

Not sure who would welcome this. In any case as long expected the Gov UK site just announced that in 10 days time they will stop updating the numbers even on Monday to Friday - which is all they do now. It will be just weekly from 1 July.

The other nations already have. So even if I wanted to post updates (which I do not as I said above) I could not do it anyway as the numbers will be gone.

That is probably the best news of the last two and a half years I have posted on these threads.

 

[Meatbag]

Not sure who would welcome this. In any case as long expected the Gov UK site just announced that in 10 days time they will stop updating the numbers even on Monday to Friday - which is all they do now. It will be just weekly from 1 July.

The other nations already have. So even if I wanted to post updates (which I do not as I said above) I could not do it anyway as the numbers will be gone.

That is probably the best news of the last two and a half years I have posted on these threads.

So doing away with the data just in time for the next wave which is said to be infecting lower lung tissue and therefore more dangerous. What could possibly go wrong.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

This will be a very welcome bump for some.....

Lol I wondered where this thread had gone.

The usual armchair experts will be rubbing their hands with glee.

This thread needs rocketing into the fucking sun.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Lol I wondered where this thread had gone.

The usual armchair experts will be rubbing their hands with glee.

This thread needs rocketing into the fucking sun.

Blimey. When is it your business what other people talk about? Puts you squarely in the "scared stupid of something" column.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Blimey. When is it your business what other people talk about? Puts you squarely in the "scared stupid of something" column.

So far, it’s just the people moaning about how others might comment, commenting.

Commentception.

 

[Summerbuzz]

So far, it’s just the people moaning about how others might comment, commenting.

Commentception.

It's bullying mate. Better talked about in those terms. People want it shut down before it starts. They're scared, and there isn't a fear out there that doesn't have some basis in reason. Telling people not to talk about a thing though is usually not a good idea. Freedom of information and freedom of expression are valuable, just as freedom from interference in our lives, and freedom from fear, are.

My view is that freedom from fear goes both ways. They oughtn't to pile on and threaten people with a barrage of extreme negativity for talking about a thing. They know it has an effect. We're all sensitive to social pressure. And they know, the more of them do it, the more effective it is. It's not something people persevere through for very long. That's why they do it. But that's the way the internet turned out for you. Once upon a time shouting down discussion and dogpiling was moderated out of existence - not anymore.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It's bullying mate. Better talked about in those terms. People want it shut down before it starts. They're scared, and there isn't a fear out there that doesn't have some basis in reason. Telling people not to talk about a thing though is usually not a good idea. Freedom of information and freedom of expression are valuable, just as freedom from interference in our lives, and freedom from fear, are.

My view is that freedom from fear goes both ways. They oughtn't to pile on and threaten people with a barrage of extreme negativity for talking about a thing. They know it has an effect. We're all sensitive to social pressure. And they know, the more of them do it, the more effective it is. It's not something people persevere through for very long. That's why they do it. But that's the way the internet turned out for you. Once upon a time shouting down discussion and dogpiling was moderated out of existence - not anymore.

Covid-19 has been completed according to most, whereas the sensible among us recognised that it had just disappeared into the shadows.

As long as the death rates don’t rise too much, it will remain “completed.”

It might be bullying or it might be a coping mechanism. Either way, as you say, it’s an attempt to shut down debate.

 

[BlueAnorak]

New B.4 and B.5 varriants.
Omicron and its derivatives seem to dampen future Omicron T-Cell type imune response which is a bit of a worry as it will allow reinfections after a while.
Not worse pathtagenically though - but the doom merchants will say it's only a matter of time.
I say that's only a big worry for China with their zero covid strategy.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

New B.4 and B.5 varriants.
Omicron and its derivatives seem to dampen future Omicron T-Cell type imune response which is a bit of a worry as it will allow reinfections after a while.
Not worse pathtagenically though - but the doom merchants will say it's only a matter of time.
I say it's only a big worry for China with their zero covid strategy.

Is our Covid strategy now not zero, with fingers in our ears, whilst blowing raspberries?

No one knows what will happen this winter yet. You’d hope our scientists are working on what might need to be done.

Whatever they decide to do will be ridiculed by some no mark on Twitter/YouTube, but I guess they’re getting better at ignoring the science deniers.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Is our Covid strategy now not zero, with fingers in our ears, whilst blowing raspberries?

No one knows what will happen this winter yet. You’d hope our scientists are working on what might need to be done.

Whatever they decide to do will be ridiculed by some no mark on Twitter/YouTube, but I guess they’re getting better at ignoring the science deniers.

Plenty of antivirals for Covid now

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Plenty of antivirals for Covid now

Which is excellent. We’re in a vastly different position now to deal with Covid.

What none of us know is what we may have to deal with in the winter as of yet and how efficacious treatments are.

If they’re good, then we have no issues. If they’re not, we have to adapt accordingly.

Its always been like this, throughout COVID’s existence.

 

[charlie smudgeboots]

I'm on the ONS survey/testing and 2 weeks ago should have been the last one. The chap who delivers my test said its being continued for another 2 months as they've been told there's a couple of potentially nasty strains of the virus lurking.

 

[Stoned Rose]

This still a thing?

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Felt rough this morning and have tested positive. I've not had it before to my knowledge and have had both jabs and the booster. Nothing too serious, just achy joints, persistent coughing, blowing my nose a lot and feel a bit under the weather. At the moment it's like a mild dose of flu and not really anything to get too excited about.