Coronavirus (2022) thread

BlueHammer85 said:
The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has named a new strain of Omicron as a "variant under investigation".

The agency said: "The Omicron variant sub-lineage known as BA.2 has been designated as a variant under investigation.

"The number of BA.2 cases is currently low, with the original Omicron lineage BA.1 still dominant in the UK."

It added that "further analyses" will now take place
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Still looking for an office blocker, I see.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Up to 15 hospital patients will be moved into a hotel in a bid to free up beds as the NHS continues to face "enormous pressure".

The patients, who do not have COVID, will receive care at a city centre hotel in Norwich in a pilot scheme that will last three months, NHS Norfolk and Waveney Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) said.

The area's health and care system remains in a critical incident.
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Almost certainly caused by sacking care home workers for not having a vaccination for a disease they’ve probably already had, and which wouldn’t stop them catching it or passing it on. Still, if you think it’s bad now, wait until April when they sack doctors, nurses, porters, radiologists, hospice workers, mental health staff and the like.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The risk benefit for children is very clearly in favour of vaccination.

The vaccine was approved in the UK for all children 12-15yo last June, and for 5-11 yo recently IIRC.

Not only has it been approved as safe and efficacious on the basis of clinical trials, many millions of doses have been given worldwide in real world settings, including in that younger age group providing further evidence of safety.

Meanwhile, have either procrastinated on or not proceeded at all with vaccinating these age groups in the UK, we're currently hospitalising record numbers, I think >100\day.

Now that's not, I hasten to add, some kind of health emergency. But as we have the means to stop it, why wouldn't we? Even without with the other concerns around long covid, transmission to older generations, school absences etc.

Surely that is obvious?
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Very clearly in favour? This was the JVCI guidance in November. I wonder when and it will be updated to reflect Omicron?
The committee’s assessment is that the health benefits from vaccination are marginally greater than the potential known harms. However, the margin of benefit is considered too small to support universal vaccination of healthy 12 to 15 year olds at this time.
It is not within the JCVI’s remit to consider the wider societal impacts of vaccination, including educational benefits. The government may wish to seek further views on the wider societal and educational impacts from the Chief Medical Officers of the UK four nations.
For the vast majority of children, SARS-CoV2 infection is asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic, and will resolve without treatment. Of the very few children aged 12 to 15 years who require hospitalisation, the majority have underlying health conditions. The committee has recommended the expansion of the list of conditions to which the offer applies for at-risk 12 to 15 year olds.
There is evidence of an association between mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis. This is an extremely rare adverse event. The medium- to long-term effects are unknown and long-term follow-up is being conducted.
Given the very low risk of serious COVID-19 disease in otherwise healthy 12 to 15 year olds, considerations on the potential harms and benefits of vaccination are very finely balanced and a precautionary approach was agreed.
Professor Wei Shen Lim, Chair of COVID-19 Immunisation for the JCVI, said:
“Children aged 12 to 15 years old with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk of severe COVID-19 should be offered COVID-19 vaccination. The range of underlying health conditions that apply has recently been expanded.
“For otherwise healthy 12- to 15-year-old children, their risk of severe COVID-19 disease is small and therefore the potential for benefit from COVID-19 vaccination is also small. The JCVI’s view is that overall, the health benefits from COVID-19 vaccination to healthy children aged 12 to 15 years are marginally greater than the potential harms. Taking a precautionary approach, this margin of benefit is considered too small to support universal COVID-19 vaccination for this age group at this time. The committee will continue to review safety data as they emerge.”
When deciding on childhood immunisations, the JCVI has consistently maintained that the main focus should be the benefits to children themselves, balanced against any potential harms to them from vaccination.
As longer-term data on potential adverse reactions accumulates, greater certainty may allow for a reconsideration of the benefits and harms. This data may not be available for several months.
Previously, the JCVI advised that children with severe neurodisabilities, Down’s syndrome, immunosuppression, profound and multiple learning disabilities, and severe learning disabilities or who are on the learning disability register, should be offered COVID-19 vaccination.
Following consideration of updated data on hospital admissions and deaths, the JCVI advises that this offer should be expanded to include children aged 12 to 15 with the following:
  • Haematological malignancy
  • Sickle cell disease
  • Type 1 diabetes
  • Congenital heart disease,
  • Other health conditions as described in Table A
Children with poorly controlled asthma and less common conditions, often due to congenital or metabolic defects, where respiratory infections can result in severe illness should also be offered COVID-19 vaccination.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has named a new strain of Omicron as a "variant under investigation".

The agency said: "The Omicron variant sub-lineage known as BA.2 has been designated as a variant under investigation.

"The number of BA.2 cases is currently low, with the original Omicron lineage BA.1 still dominant in the UK."

It added that "further analyses" will now take place
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It's been suggested that the rapid takeover of this strain in Denmark may have contributed to the continued rise in cases there, still going up despite being the first in Europe. Implies either more transmissibility, immune escape or both.

The good news is there's no evidence of it being any more severe.

Now, an Omicron variant, BA.2, accounts for almost half of all Danish Omicron-cases

So far, three subvariants of Omicron have been described: BA.1, BA.2 and BA.3. Worldwide, BA.1 account for most of Omicron-cases. However, in Denmark BA.2 is gaining ground.
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roubaixtuesday said:
It's been suggested that the rapid takeover of this strain in Denmark may have contributed to the continued rise in cases there, still going up despite being the first in Europe. Implies either more transmissibility, immune escape or both.

The good news is there's no evidence of it being any more severe.

Now, an Omicron variant, BA.2, accounts for almost half of all Danish Omicron-cases

So far, three subvariants of Omicron have been described: BA.1, BA.2 and BA.3. Worldwide, BA.1 account for most of Omicron-cases. However, in Denmark BA.2 is gaining ground.
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yep and Vaccines are also expected to be effective against BA.2 in fighting severe illness, according to Danish health officials.
 
bluemc1 said:
yes which is why I stated earlier over 80% of reports to VAERS are by doctors and nurses but I knew your concerns would be mentioned so let’s say even if we half that number to allow for false reports it’s still an alarming number
Also one hell of a coincidence these numbers coincide with the vaccine companies getting exemption from paying damages and also for some reason in 2021 people decided to make false reports to VAERS in numbers overwhelmingly higher than in previous years

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Fair play, missed you mentioning that bit,

Even then tho. as others have pointed out. someone dying after having the vaccine doesn't mean they died of the vaccine. its the same catch as the Covid + 28 days later data, its good for rapid feedback but not as accurate as it can be, we should be looking at death certifications to see how many people have it mentioned as a cause/contributing factor for a real value.

One other possible point that skews the data in that report is the age that vaccines are given, in the most part all other vaccines are given at a young age where natural deaths are far less common that the old and vulnerable that this vaccine started with.

Thanks for the link BTW, lots of data to look at.
 
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