Coronavirus (2022) thread

[Bluesince1979]

The bit where you are telling a head teacher how to look after their pupils.

I doubt you know best.

I can spot naivety and a drama queen a million miles off.
Do u believe 40% of his pupils have long covid?

 

[mexico1970]

My son and 3 of my grandchildren tested positive over the last couple of days but none showing any major signs of illness, this strain is certainly a sticky one.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I can spot naivety and a drama queen a million miles off.
Do u believe 40% of his pupils have long covid?

No clue. I’d trust him over you though.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Was South Africa ignored over mild Omicron evidence?

South African scientists say their research was not taken more seriously because it was from Africa.

www.bbc.co.uk

From the horses mouth!

 

[Bluesince1979]

No clue. I’d trust him over you though.

As i said .. i can spot naivety a million miles away

 

[blueinsa]

So people aren’t worth saving if they’ve got asthma FFS.

Operation “big dog” and “red meat” had brought out its target audience.

Brilliant how you make 2+2=5 to suit your own argument each and every time.

Take your politics to the politics thread would be my best advice.

 

[Gremlin]

A very subjective issue.
Most Covid related deaths occur as a result of complications arising from Covid exacerbating issues with existing conditions - Pnumonia, Blood clots, Heart failure, Diabetes and immune system issues (resulting in Cytokine Storm) being the 5 most common, so I'd be very wary of that information.
The question should be - if they had not caught Covid would they have probably died or died within the next few months?

The way to try and answer that question is to look at the excess deaths data (i.e. how many more people have died compared to the 5 year average). If they were 'going to die anyway' then there wouldn't be any. There might be a few more up front (as the virus hastened death) before an undershoot afterwards as things returned to the average but it would even out over time. From the data, whilst this a small amount of this, it looks like there were still far more excess deaths over the course of the pandemic than just vulnerable people dying a few weeks earlier than they would have done anyway.

Microsoft Power BI

app.powerbi.com

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

As i said .. i can spot naivety a million miles away

As I said, you know best.

 

[SWP's back]

I think the video is worse mate because the inference is that over 65s don’t count much either.

Oh that ****. Yeah, I totally agree, he’s a twat.

 

[blueinsa]

While I dont doubt this may help bring some issues to the fore front. there are a large chunk of these pre existing conditions that cannot just be dieted/exercised away or fixed with a healthy life style.

the top 20 pre existing conditions. Mostly it was a combination of many of these.

Diabetes​

Chronic lower respiratory diseases​

Hypertensive diseases​

Diseases of the urinary system​

Ischaemic heart diseases​

Symptoms signs and ill-defined conditions​

Dementia and Alzheimer's disease​

Heart failure and complications and ill-defined heart disease​

Cardiac arrhythmias​

Cerebrovascular diseases​

Diseases of the musculoskeletal system and connective tissue​

Malignant neoplasms of lymphoid haematopoietic and related tissue​

Obesity​

Pulmonary oedema and other intestinal pulmonary diseases​

Pulmonary heart disease and diseases of pulmonary circulation​

Transplanted organ and tissue status​

Cirrhosis and other diseases of liver​

Nonrheumatic valve disorders​

Parkinson's disease​

Malignant neoplasm of trachea bronchus and lung​

COVID-19 cases with no pre-existing conditions​

COVID-19 cases with pre-existing conditions, but none ranked in the top 20​

Diabetes: was in 22% of all cases, but it doesn't differentiate between type 1 and type 2. and the older you get the more likely you are to end up with Diabetes. Healthy or not. 15% of those between 65-84 have it.

Chronic lower respiratory diseases: Was in about 20% of cases, Some of that will be smoking, some will be asthma that has extended into COPD etc. Thing is, Smoking and giving up? the damage is already done. My Mum has COPD from smoking, she got it about 10 years ago. but gave up smoking 30 years prior to getting COPD.

Symptoms signs and ill-defined conditions : Bit of a general catch all there? I assume this is stuff like IBS where people have stomach issues but doctors have no idea what.

All in all, A healthy lifestyle will help but it wont stop the majority of pre existing conditions as you get older. Pretty much anyone over about 60 will have some condition or another no matter how healthy they are.

Pollution is probably as bigger a driver than healthy lifestyles.

Agree so we are then facing the realities of life. We get sick. Some reach a ripe old age, some of us sadly never will. Some die in accidents, some sadly get terrible diseases others won’t and some will die from pneumonia brought in by a virus whilst the vast majority won’t, as is the case with covid.

It’s not me cheapening what has tragically happened to many but it’s the realities.

 

[FantasyIreland]

yes full data from beginning of pandemic is 17,300 I think

While 17k people lost is very sad,I'm yet to be convinced that this period in our lives was worthy of causing or exacerbating the consequences elsewhere.
I feel many people have been brainwashed through fear,rather than fact.If the real figures had been published from the get go,then the majority would have seen this virus for what it is.

 

[grunge]

T minus 10 seconds before getting called a doom monger ;)



Study from Germany finds 9 months after even mild Covid ( study was 93% of the study group were not hospitalised ) there are clear signs of organ damage still present in the lungs, heart, vascular and renal systems.

 

[SWP's back]

you don’t consider get the jab or lose your job forced ?

How many kids have jobs?

 

[kaz7]

While 17k people lost is very sad,I'm yet to be convinced that this period in our lives was worthy of causing or exacerbating the consequences elsewhere.
I feel many people have been brainwashed through fear,rather than fact.If the real figures had been published from the get go,then the majority would have seen this virus for what it is.

Short memory and covid denying

 

[BlueHammer85]

In the week from 10-16 January, an average of 93.2% of hospital beds were occupied, pretty much the same as the week before (93.1%) but still at a very high level, according to the latest NHS data.

That’s 6,163 free out of 90,799.

 

[Scottyboi]

T minus 10 seconds before getting called a doom monger ;)



Study from Germany finds 9 months after even mild Covid ( study was 93% of the study group were not hospitalised ) there are clear signs of organ damage still present in the lungs, heart, vascular and renal systems.

100% believe this, I play 7 a side once a week and get gassed so easily and feel like my fitness isn't improving like it normally would. And going up the stairs taxes my breath when it never use to. I am only 32.

 

[Bluesince1979]

As I said, you know best.

Fanks

 

[kaz7]

T minus 10 seconds before getting called a doom monger ;)



Study from Germany finds 9 months after even mild Covid ( study was 93% of the study group were not hospitalised ) there are clear signs of organ damage still present in the lungs, heart, vascular and renal systems.

People dont want to hear about long covid , la la la

 

[meltonblue]

While 17k people lost is very sad,I'm yet to be convinced that this period in our lives was worthy of causing or exacerbating the consequences elsewhere.
I feel many people have been brainwashed through fear,rather than fact.If the real figures had been published from the get go,then the majority would have seen this virus for what it is.

Bear in mind what that 17k is actually saying. Everyone else that did have underlying health conditions doesn’t mean they were going to die from them had they not caught covid too.

I’m not sure it’s right to only focus on death as the impact of it either.

 

[Octavian]

T minus 10 seconds before getting called a doom monger ;)



Study from Germany finds 9 months after even mild Covid ( study was 93% of the study group were not hospitalised ) there are clear signs of organ damage still present in the lungs, heart, vascular and renal systems.

How serious are they damaged?