Coronavirus (2022) thread

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davealvers said:
I was chatting to a guy recently who had been match commander for hundreds of matches over the years and these medical incidents have always happened so many times you wouldn’t believe. However, the difference now is they stop the game every time and so everyone thinks it’s a sudden new phenomenon simply because attention is now drawn to it every time.
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There was an incident in 142 at the end of the Chelsea game , not sure what happened but there was someone on the floor being attended to by a couple of first aides/medics.
Haven't seen it reported anywhere.
 
346 all settings deaths - was 359 last week

102,292 cases - up 7966 on yesterday from 94,326 & down 5777 from 108,069 last week

Based on the N Ireland data the biggest group testing positive there is aged 5 to 9. About 8 times as many in that age range as for those over 70 years testing postive in the past week 5489 V 721

Why cases are not translating into high hospital numbers and ventilators are falling. They are down to just 17 in Northern Ireland today. Not been lower since last July.
 
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davealvers said:
I was chatting to a guy recently who had been match commander for hundreds of matches over the years and these medical incidents have always happened so many times you wouldn’t believe. However, the difference now is they stop the game every time and so everyone thinks it’s a sudden new phenomenon simply because attention is now drawn to it every time.
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Thanks. That makes a lot of sense.
 
grunge said:
lots of people have had Covid which scars the heart. There’s gonna be a lot of issues for a while.
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This was my point in the original argument.

The fact is we know COVID can damage the heart long-term. We also have billions of people vaccinated with no evidence that it leads to a higher risk of heart attacks. Yet, they're so brainwashed by anti-vax theories that they immediately miss-connect the dots and blame the vaccine.

The funniest part is I got called a sheep for 'believing everything I'm told (yes, they meant the scientific facts) about the vaccine'.... ycnmiu. Clearly a crack-head with a youtube channel is a better source of information than the WHO.
 
grunge said:
lots of people have had Covid which scars the heart. There’s gonna be a lot of issues for a while.
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Add to this the fact that football games are quite emotive, often stressful experiences. Reckon you're a lot more likely to see your blood pressure go up at a game then you are at home doing the washing for example! Can see why they happen at games, and if we've got a populace with weakened hearts due to widespread infection, plus the new rules that games have to stop... well its gonna feel very visible.
 
England hospital numbers today.

Admissions (Monday - always 48 hr behind the other numbers) 1593 - down from 1808 last week and 2180 two weeks ago.

Patients (today) down just 140 to 13,948 - would have been bigger but the good falls in other regions were not matched in the North West which went up by 71.

First sign of the steady falls slowing down after the recent stall in case numbers falling.

But ventilators fall once again to 493. Lowest since 15 July.

On this day last year England had 3634 on ventilators if you want to see the stark difference between then and now due to both the vaccines and Omicron's less dangerous nature.

These are just the key numbers. All the rest of the data will be on the other thread.
 
davealvers said:
I was chatting to a guy recently who had been match commander for hundreds of matches over the years and these medical incidents have always happened so many times you wouldn’t believe. However, the difference now is they stop the game every time and so everyone thinks it’s a sudden new phenomenon simply because attention is now drawn to it every time.
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This is how I remember it too, you used to see little notes at the end of a match report about a fan sadly passing away during the game, or the twitter account would post an all clear type message after the game.

IIRC a season or two ago, there was one of these medical incidents near the dugouts and a player and the fans attracted the attention of the club doctors, which then caused the game to stop.

And now, whenever it happens, the fans yell for the game to be stopped.

I heard at the game on the weekend that the club staff aren't actually going any more, they leave it to the St Johns Ambulance people, so I think as people realise this, it will fade out again.
 
twosips said:
Five weeks since I had covid and I've developed pretty annoying tinnitus. Lovely. Can't shake the pressure feeling in my ears either. Feels like they need to pop constantly. Anyone else have this experience? Driving me mad.
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Try some steam breathing to see if it's a sinus issue - inner ear not draining.
 
Healdplace said:
346 all settings deaths - was 359 last week

102,292 cases - up 7966 on yesterday from 94,326 & down 5777 from 108,069 last week

Based on the N Ireland data the biggest group testing positive there is aged 5 to 9. About 8 times as many in that age range as for those over 70 years testing postive in the past week 5489 V 721

Why cases are not translating into high hospital numbers and ventilators are falling. They are down to just 17 in Northern Ireland today. Not been lower since last July.
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First off note to the positivity police: this is of interest, rather than of concern. No reason to panic!

It could be than the BA2 omicron variant is becoming a significant part of the reason why cases aren't dropping. If that's the case, we could see a rise, perhaps even a significant rise.

BA2 is currently doubling every 3-4 days here, and reported at low single percentages. In Denmark, it's dominant and they have a *huge* and still rising current caseload, well over double our peak, despite higher vaccination and higher booster rates than us.

No big spike there in deaths and they're removing restrictions, so I presume likewise for health care.

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*if* this continues, we'll see a rebound.

*if* the removal of restrictions also causes a rise in transmission or could be quite sharp.
 
I was wondering about that new Omicron variant. Thanks Roubaix for the explanation.

Do we know if it is different enough that someone who had the original Omicron could get this one too within weeks of the first?

Is this why Gov UK have announced that from next week they are changing the way they record cases to add in second and third re-infections? They are obviously expecting these.

As the data thread shows it looks as if the biggest jump in cases right now (certainly in N Ireland) is in the 5 - 9 year olds who presumably have had no vaccines.They have taken over from the 10 - 14 year olds though these are still high. And the over 70s (most vaccinated) are falling not rising.

This looks very much a school driven outbreak of cases at the moment. Primary school now not secondary. As shown by the constantly falling ventilator numbers (under 500 in England for first time since July today).

Presumably this is going to spread fast and be short lived as a primary school outbreak given how easily it will pass through such a community who are very much into touching and not social distancing.
 
twosips said:
Five weeks since I had covid and I've developed pretty annoying tinnitus. Lovely. Can't shake the pressure feeling in my ears either. Feels like they need to pop constantly. Anyone else have this experience? Driving me mad.
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Annoying and whiney high pitch noise you can't escape. Didn't you get married recently?
 
roubaixtuesday said:
First off note to the positivity police: this is of interest, rather than of concern. No reason to panic!

It could be than the BA2 omicron variant is becoming a significant part of the reason why cases aren't dropping. If that's the case, we could see a rise, perhaps even a significant rise.

BA2 is currently doubling every 3-4 days here, and reported at low single percentages. In Denmark, it's dominant and they have a *huge* and still rising current caseload, well over double our peak, despite higher vaccination and higher booster rates than us.

No big spike there in deaths and they're removing restrictions, so I presume likewise for health care.

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*if* this continues, we'll see a rebound.

*if* the removal of restrictions also causes a rise in transmission or could be quite sharp.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Covid-19: New mutation of Delta variant under close watch in UK

Scientists are studying it to better understand how much of a threat it may pose.
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A similar issue with a Delta variant was under scrutiny just prior to Omicron. I'd imagine, as we move forward towards spring, with boosters and ever increasing organic immunity, we're looking at the dying embers of this winters phase and we'll be preparing a strategy for early autumn. Obviously nothing can be completely dismissed but the confidence appears to be as strong as it's ever been, right now.
 
My son tested positive on Friday and I was negative, same sat, same sunday and Monday. Didn't test Tuesday, today he's negative and I'm positive (and feeling a bit bunged up).

He is staying with me at the min because his mum has health conditions.
He's due to go back to her on Saturday - praying I don't pass it back to him and then him to her.

Can he re-catch it again so quickly from me?

Also praying I'm testing negative for Saturday so I can goto the pub!
 
HolisticJim said:
My son tested positive on Friday and I was negative, same sat, same sunday and Monday. Didn't test Tuesday, today he's negative and I'm positive (and feeling a bit bunged up).

He is staying with me at the min because his mum has health conditions.
He's due to go back to her on Saturday - praying I don't pass it back to him and then him to her.

Can he re-catch it again so quickly from me?

Also praying I'm testing negative for Saturday so I can goto the pub!
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Strictly speaking he needs another negative tomorrow and you shouldn't be looking at going anywhere this weekend, as you will still be within the isolation period.
1. What has changed
The self-isolation advice for people with coronavirus (COVID-19) has changed. It is now possible to end self-isolation after 5 full days if you have 2 negative LFD tests taken on consecutive days. The first LFD test should not be taken before the fifth day after your symptoms started (or the day your test was taken if you did not have symptoms). The self-isolation period remains 10 full days for those without negative results from 2 LFD tests taken a day apart.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Strictly speaking he needs another negative tomorrow and you shouldn't be looking at going anywhere this weekend, as you will still be within the isolation period.
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Saturday would be day 9 since my first symptoms on the previous Friday (banging head) so I'm hopeful we will both test negative on Friday and Saturday. Clearly if not I won't go out and risk others health.

But, I've got my lad until Saturday now - just hoping there's no risk of him showing up positive afterwards having got it back off me straight away.
 
twosips said:
Five weeks since I had covid and I've developed pretty annoying tinnitus. Lovely. Can't shake the pressure feeling in my ears either. Feels like they need to pop constantly. Anyone else have this experience? Driving me mad.
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Take a look at ginkgo biloba supplement..
 
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