Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

[mcfcinprague]

It'll start on June 15th like it or not

 

[Blue_eyes]

BBC creaming for dippers to get their title as that woman on breakfast writhed ecstatically as she triumphantly declared that less than 1%(0.8) of the tests were positive(obviously meaning footy can return).Meanwhile our statistics show a percentage of 0.36% of our population have tested positive, so the footy tests show more than twice the national figure. So BBC I dont expect any condemnation of this governments handling of the crisis from you when according to your sports reporters 0.8% is something to get excited about.....I turned over to homes under the hammer while I ate my breakfast, its a lot less annoying.

 

[Mike Cledford]

'Klopp: We would never endanger players'

http://www.skysports.com/share/11991426

How the fuck does bingo know? Is he a doctor now?

Fuckin Scousers.

Interesting to see further down amongst all the Livarpool stuff squeezed in by Sky there is a link to an article saying the PL support a safe trophy presentation to the dippers.

Thats that sorted then. I assume United were consulted and promised something in return.

 

[BluechesterCity]

If that's directed at me, then I can move it to more appropriate thread for you.

That might be a good idea, cleavers, mate.

 

[thelongbowman]

I haven't suggested such a thing and that's not even the point. I'll try and explain what I meant.

Start by looking at the sheer disaster surrounding the tens of thousands of care home deaths across the world. 70% in Sweden, 40-50% is the European average. Seeding the virus into care homes via dumping patients, ambulances not attending to the elderly in care homes, doctors refusing to give treatment to sick people in care homes, people being pressed to sign 'do not resuscitate' forms, coronavirus diagnosis being made based on an assumption (regardless if it was covid19 strain or not) rather than through scientific verification. This is all publicly available information - most of which i got listening to specialists talking on Radio 4 but was also being talked about in the House of Commons yesterday.

Without the scandalous amount of care home deaths being attributed to the virus the number collapses. Care homes have turned out to be the most dangerous places to be during the pandemic, second only to hospitals, when they should have been the safest. The failure in duty of care is monumental.

Then we get to widespread misdiagnosis of covid19 - including massive falsification of the numbers. We were told to trust the science, even when science is dispensed with when recording death certificates. Assumptions work fine during a pandemic, right? Just tick a box on a form, don't bother with a post-mortem or blood analysis. Someone dies of a cardiac arrest, they look for coronavirus, and, Bingo, they are added to the stats. This is truly shocking behaviour.

Then there has been widespread mistreatment in hospitals all over the world, chiefly the misuse of ventilators, that has resulted in many, many deaths. They get listed as covid deaths even when they are not. Once these numbers are filtered out we will likely get closer to 60-70% of the reported numbers. A third of all covid19 deaths in hospital are people with diabetes. From the other two thirds to die in hospital what proportion died with one, two, three or more underlying health issues? A very large portion. Most of the population cannot be classed as vulnerable and sick yet are under quarantine, despite the number of infected being assessed at less than 0.3% of the population.

Without such numbers added to the data we will be getting extremely close to average annual numbers of deaths. However, now data is emerging regarding the great number of operations, treatment, surgeries that have all been cancelled and put back to some indefinite time in the future. Which will be far too late for many thousands of people. How about all those people who suffered by not going to hospital through fear of getting infected there or putting pressure on the NHS? A&E recorded the lowest number of inpatients in history.

The so-called 'cure' or remedy is now responsible for a horrific number of people dying unnecessarily, people suffering stress, mental health problems, suicide even, businesses going to the wall, job losses, bankruptcy. Really? This is how you deal with a virus, by doing these things to people?

In the face of any epidemic/pandemic the most vulnerable should be the first to be protected. That is my area of concern. We have seen an epic failure of government, probably on the biggest scale in our history.

Almost everything I have written above was taken from listening to BBC Radio 4 over the last 1-2 months, it's pretty much my only source of mainstream information. Not off some tin-foil hat conspiracy sites.

Don't take my word for it. Do your own research. All this information will become common knowledge before too long.

I know for a fact of one death in a care home where the cause was put as covid even though she wasnt tested or seen by a doctor



I imagine this has happened countless times, the reason i know not.

 

[Resurrection Joe...]

I know for a fact of one death in a care home where the cause was put as covid even though she wasnt tested or seen by a doctor



I imagine this has happened countless times, the reason i know not.

Here's a wild guess..let's say you run a granny farm and three residents die of let's say..legionaries disease...covid is the way out of endless H and S inspections before you have to refit your aircon system.

 

[cleavers]

Can we keep this thread to "football discussion" please, care homes/schools is elsewhere.

Thanks.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Can we keep this thread to "football discussion" please, care homes/schools is elsewhere.

Thanks.

Rooney plays football, he also likes care homes : )

 

[bluetonium]

Baffled by spit the dog's latest comments. He's said good job it's only six positive tests in the premier league, twenty or so would have been a problem?

Aside from being insensitive and self centred, not to mention that certain teams are now at a disadvantage for a June restart, will it actually take a passing before these sections of the media and footballing bodies stop pushing for the league to be completed at all costs?

What about ten, would that be an ok number Jamie? Fifteen? What about if two of those were Salah and Van Dyke? Still ok?

 

[basokla]

Baffled by spit the dog's latest comments. He's said good job it's only six positive tests in the premier league, twenty or so would have been a problem?

What about ten, would that be an ok number Jamie? Fifteen? What about if two of those were Salah and Van Dyke? Still ok?

No answer for that as it’s almost certainly a moving target. Had it been twenty - fifty would have been a problem.