Cover for DeJong

Dax777 said:
citizens_1976 said:
Gohkan Inler would be the perfect replacement or backup to Nigel De Jong. He's aggressive, he comes forward with the ball and distributes it very well, and he wouldn't be that costly either. Underrated player.
Gohan Inler is better than De jong.

Gohan will need to turn into Super Saiyan 4 in order to be better than de Jong. Unfortunately he never does.. in any case, your view is rubbish.. next!
 
Inler who is now 26, was looked at by big clubs several years back and not picked up by any, is better than De Jong.

Heard it all now. He isn't even close to De Jong's level. He's "very good" in the shambolic corpse of Serie A while De Jong is "excellent" in the Premier League (although I know you disagree like Sabster but I'm happily with the majority).
 
I know City fans love De Jong to death and believ he is the best thing since sliced bread. But he and Inler are extremely similar players, and in my opinion Inler is better. Better range, quicker, much more mobile and much more fluid in possession than De Jong.

The difference is negligible and folks may disagree and that is fine, but the idea that De Jong is so much better than Inler, an impression generally believed on bluemoon, is laughable. Especially in light of the fact that most admittedly watch very little outside of the Prem.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:21 pm --<br /><br />Sample De Jong
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0[/youtube]

Sample Inler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKhNrye47I[/youtube]

The similarity is uncanny. But if you watch both long enough, eitght times out of ten, you'd come to the conclusion Inler is the better player.
 
Dax777 said:
The difference is negligible and folks may disagree and that is fine, but the idea that De Jong is so much better than Inler, an impression generally believed on bluemoon, is laughable. Especially in light of the fact that most admittedly watch very little outside of the Prem.

I've seen plenty of Inler and think he's at his level (as a first team player) or if he was in England he'd be playing for Aston Villa or Everton. Big clubs gave him the look over and all of them passed on him, for a reason (reminds me of Hamsik in that sense, linked with all the top clubs, none bought him and for good reason IMO - he was outshone by our own Weiss at the World Cup). I'd have him on the bench, no more. I remember reading recently that Napoli and Wolfsburg want him.
 
de Jong is so crucial because he doesn't hold back nag goes flying in... So the next best thing would be Zaba or Milner as they both fully commit to tackles and don't fadevtowards the end of games.
 
LoveCity said:
Dax777 said:
The difference is negligible and folks may disagree and that is fine, but the idea that De Jong is so much better than Inler, an impression generally believed on bluemoon, is laughable. Especially in light of the fact that most admittedly watch very little outside of the Prem.

I've seen plenty of Inler and think he's at his level (as a first team player) or if he was in England he'd be playing for Aston Villa or Everton. Big clubs gave him the look over and all of them passed on him, for a reason. I'd have him on the bench, no more. I remember reading recently that Napoli and Wolfsburg want him.
Intil Madrid picked up Diarra, many big teams passed on him too. Chelsea, Arsenal e.t.c. He had to go play for Portsmouth. After he got to Madrid and showed his stuff, one had to wonder how Wenger and (Mourihno or the Wierd dude at West Ham now) ever thought Denilson and Mikel were better options.

Just coz he doesn't play for a big club, which is an iffy claim, seeing as Udinese is storming up the Italian league table, doesn't mean he is not better than players who do. Hulk and Falcao are probably better than a lot of players at top clubs. So is Canavaro. Hummels was lounging on Bayern's bench for a while. There are countless fantastic players, Milito comes to mind, who lounged at mediocre clubs, not because they weren't better than the guys at nig clubs, but simply becausee no one had the good sense to give them a chance.

I have seen these 2 guys for a long time, and in my estimation, Inler is a better player. And if Arsenal ponies up the cash and go get him next season. This debate will worth having. As many more will see the player they wave off without a second thought more often.
 
Dax777 said:
I know City fans love De Jong to death and believ he is the best thing since sliced bread. But he and Inler are extremely similar players, and in my opinion Inler is better. Better range, quicker, much more mobile and much more fluid in possession than De Jong.

The difference is negligible and folks may disagree and that is fine, but the idea that De Jong is so much better than Inler, an impression generally believed on bluemoon, is laughable. Especially in light of the fact that most admittedly watch very little outside of the Prem.

-- Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:21 pm --

Sample De Jong
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0[/youtube]

Sample Inler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKhNrye47I[/youtube]

The similarity is uncanny. But if you watch both long enough, eitght times out of ten, you'd come to the conclusion Inler is the better player.


You're forgetting a few factors here. For one, outside City, de Jong, although remembered for his leg breaking tackles and kung fu kick, is being named as a player they
would love to have. It's exactly what Arsenal is missing at this point.

Ofcourse a player can show similaraties. For example, Palacios is a downgraded version of de Jong. But a major aspect is that de Jong has proven himself
on the biggest stage, Gokhan has not. By that fact alone it's too foolgardy to assume Ilner is better. In a lower, more easy league like the Turkish it's more easy to look
good. Nevertheless it's possible that Gokhan will prove to be an excellent DM for a top team in the future, but at this time it's a far safer bet to rank de Jong higher.
 
The obvious difference between Inler and Diarra (when Real signed him) is age. Diarra was 23, and has developed physically and technically. Inler is 26, it's hard to see him making the same forward strides.

TBH I just don't rate Inler. I noticed him in the Euro's like most people and followed him for a bit, but gave up. I asked an italian friend about him after reading this thread and got the message 'Might end up at Inter, who seem intent on achieving mid-table'. He just hasn't kicked on, or seized his chances.

I've seen him make big tackles but I'm absolutely sure he's not got the positional discipline or sense of a true 'Makalele-type'. He seems to wander around. I imagine Barry is better at actively covering than Inler.... and we're not looking for a more passive version of Barry, are we? If we were looking for a midfielder surely we'd want an active go-getter, OR a cunning, talented passer to pull the strings and create, OR a physical collosus who can destroy and really drive forward. I can't see someone like Inler turning our losses into draws and our draws into wins. He has a little of each but nowhere near enough for me.

Ideally we'd have De Rossi or Wilshire, or a clone of Vieira.
 

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