229 scientists have written a letter to the govt advising against the strategy we are following. The scientists in Italy, who are going through this and have now got experience we won't have, are all advising against it. We are tackling this virus completely different to nearly every other country, so you can maybe see where people are worried.
Global leaders aren't going to revolt. There could well be major social effects though.Once all this curtails. Global leaders really need to come together and address so many issues, to seem capitalism totally collapse over a virus in a week shows how unsustainable it all is.
Have you even looked at who is on that list? All so called 'scientists' are not created equal - in fact many of those who signed up to that political stunt aren't even out of school.229 scientists have written a letter to the govt advising against the strategy we are following. The scientists in Italy, who are going through this and have now got experience we won't have, are all advising against it. We are tackling this virus completely different to nearly every other country, so you can maybe see where people are worried..
on testing, there is no point as we have already said those with mild conditions should self isolate. So that’s whether they have it or not. So if they follow the advice that should help the spread.
the Asian countries have seemingly controlled the spread if you look at the numbers but that’s by locking everything down. You have no idea whether that is effective or not until they try and return to normal. When they come out of isolation the virus is still going to be around and guess what the danger is you end up with it increasing again as people try to return to normal.
the strategy here , which I agree with, is as there is no vaccine it will spread so the plan will be to make sure that spread does not peak at anyone time and we spread the strain on the health services as best we can to avoid a spike ( they will still be overwhelmed) but that is the plan. At the same time planning to protect the vulnerable.
that’s why it’s going to be a drip feed of measures , wash hands , stay in if have symptoms, protect vulnerable , at some point ban large gatherings , eventually close schools and then lockdown.
however all of that is managed to protect the vulnerable and the nhs.
you can’t just lock the whole country down for a year, it won’t work. Even if you do the virus will still be here when we get out.
I have about 10 days supply of nappies for my little lad and can’t find any anywhere so far today. Onto my 5th shop soon. Things are going to get messy...
They're from a number of different fields, but how about W.H.O's recommendations from people who have experience of epidemics?they are not half of them Are students , maths researchers and one is even an employment lawyer,
yeah Italy have it under control Don’t they. Their first positive test was 1 day before ours.
This must be my last post for a while - I have work to get done. However, you've been reading too much and not thinking enough, IMO, mate.
1. Who knows whether the virus will start up again in China? 95% of shipments from China have now resumed, I've just heard on the TV. They've been shipping a load of their used ventilators over to Italy, such is their confidence they won't need them in such numbers again. Our strategy condemns thousands of people to death, whereas the Chinese strategy offers hope that that need not be the case. Perhaps it might not work and and perhaps it would, but surely when dealing with peoples' lives, we don't just give up and accept a terrible outcome which is not even certain.
2. All this BS about flattening the curve. Sure we want to flatten it, I get that. But it is PR spin to imagine we can flatten it to anything like NHS capacity if we allow most people to become infected. It's simple maths mate. You cannot divide 40m infected by any number of months, any way you like and not overwhelm the NHS. We'd perhaps have to spread it out over 10 years to not do so. Carry on as we are, and the NHS WILL be swamped, and when that happens, people who need ICU who cannot get it, die. They are saveable but die needlessly due to our inability to treat them.
Furthermore, where are the actions now, which are commensurate with trying to minimise the size of any peak? We are being told that cancelling sporting events would have little impact. Well (a) what utter crap, and (b) any impact would be helpful. It is a travesty that all actions are not being taken to limit the extent to which the NHS cannot cope. The government is talking about "at some point" closing schools, banning mass gatherings of more than 500.Get on with for christ's sake. And make it gatherings of 50 whilst you're at it. Where is the direction saying "Everyone who can work from home, should"? That would help greatly, but no such statement is forthcoming? Why????
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