COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Chippy_boy]

No I didnt miss the gist, and the key word in that for me is 'allegedly' as I havent seen it and as far as I can see only one poster here did. With respect to all, I would like to see for myself exactly what that MP said

... somewhat different a line from your earlier "No of course it isn't true". It seems what you meant was "I don't know if it's true or not".

 

[Claytop]

11 days on deaths per day 15 days on cumulative deaths.

I’ve not seen anyone tracking deaths per day but fair enough.

 

[sir baconface]

Well if this is socialism, then sign me up. This is impacting human society across the globe. Only essential businesses need to be kept funded and afloat.

Otherwise, households needs to be sustained with a universal amount until a vaccine is developed. My mortgage company just kicked the can down the street for three months when the payment holiday ends.

What then? Same goes for all these other initiatives. Three months pay, three months for this, three months for that.

I'm certainly no economist but why go £1trillion in the hole, if households in this country could get it instead and spend the money to essentially live, thus paying that cash directly back into the very economy it needs to keep afloat?

It's not as if people can go out and spend it on a holiday is it?

Isn’t that what they are doing with their support money?

Isn’t it better to target any available money as far as possible to those suffering hardship rather than dilute it by paying it to all and sundry?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

No I didnt miss the gist, and the key word in that for me is 'allegedly' as I havent seen it and as far as I can see only one poster here did. With respect to all, I would like to see for myself exactly what that MP said

I was going to reply but you’ve said everything I wanted to say. Cheers.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

... somewhat different a line from your earlier "No of course it isn't true". It seems what you meant was "I don't know if it's true or not".

No it isnt,please do not put words into my mouth or interpret my meaning for me. I referenced the point someone made that all people over a certain age will not be taken into hospital and again, for clarity, that is absolutely not true. Not I dont know or Im not sure. I hope you find that clarity in my post this time.

 

[Vic]

It was on the 11am show. It may well be quickly removed and not shown again. But as I said it may well.be just his own local authority. Didn't realise the signifance of what he was saying until I thought about it later By then had changed channels so couldn't rewind it ti listen again unfortunately

Frankly, every local authority is in trouble with funding adult social care (a statutory obligation) so they are having to make more cuts to other stuff. Care homes were already closing because they don't make money. 1600 have closed in the last ten years (1 in 8). An arbitrary cut-off at 75 sounds inhuman but if someone has dementia or a chronic painful condition and gets coronavirus...

I've already heard people reminiscing about pneumonia as "old man's friend" (not nice but 100 years ago judged a relatively painless way to go).

It simply isn't always a good thing to prolong life. I have in mind a GP friend who had a stroke and survived but his quality of life was poor and caring for him ruined his wife's health.

Difficult decisions about who gets treated will swiftly become the norm.

 

[kaz7]

Unions of healthcare workers going on the attack,saying the lack of PPE is a crisis within a crisis

 

[BlueHammer85]

Just a general thought .... in a few weeks/month when hopefully by then the curve is on the way down and death rates drop ...
what happens when everything ‘goes back to normal’ and flights resume and some people carrying the virus come over and infect a few people again ... would we back to where we are now ? Or is the hope majority of country would be immune to it or perhaps a vaccine would be available

 

[kaz7]

Just a general thought .... in a few weeks/month when hopefully by then the curve is on the way down and death rates drop ...
what happens when everything ‘goes back to normal’ and flights resume and some people carrying the virus come over and infect a few people again ... would we back to where we are now ? Or is the hope majority of country would be immune to it or perhaps a vaccine would be available

The vaccine is a year off at best,heathcare workers will get the first lot then the rest of us

 

[SilverFox2]

When my wife gave birth to our first child in Jimmy's (LU Hosp) the doc complemented her on the baby's good health and said that most babies on the ward were in a poor state due to addictions.

Thanks for that post KS.
Often she felt threatened on the Ward because as you say many, not just a few were drug dependent with some of them violent as well. I'm sure she had many great mothers during her time there but my point was the NHS could look in other directions rather than just at the elderly if it wants to limit the worthiness of its customers.