COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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I think you have to factor the two things Into the equation to get your percentage of dying

the chances of getting covid In the first instance ; and

having got it the chances of dying of it

that gives you your true risk factor of dying of covid as a healthy under 65

Most people near the 65 figure have something wrong with them don't they? The underlying health condition notation after death is a bit thin as well, the research online I have done has shown me that heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure are big contributing factors in this virus killing you percentage wise. Obesity has also been mentioned.

Most people I know have what's classed as underlying conditions so they'd be very wary of contracting the virus, it's a bit like Russian roulette bud.
 
This discussion reminds of the speech made by the German priest. 'first they came for the socialists but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a socialist then....'

Everybody should be protected during this time. If we say they are old, they've had their lives, who next? The poor? The immigrant?

To be fair they have built several temporary hospitals which e will not really be used
 
Healthy under 65 is 0.02%?
Is that a statement or a question?

I am merely saying that so far 0.02% of the population has died. Of course the % of healthy under 65's will be much lower but we haven't finished yet.

And anyway, this a red herring - if you catch this, then the odds are obviously MUCH higher.
 
Most people near the 65 figure have something wrong with them don't they? The underlying health condition notation after death is a bit thin as well, the research online I have done has shown me that heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure are big contributing factors in this virus killing you percentage wise. Obesity has also been mentioned.

Most people I know have what's classed as underlying conditions so they'd be very wary of contracting the virus, it's a bit like Russian roulette bud.

I know it is and individually you can choose to do more to protect yourself . Just because shops open doesn’t mean people have to go.
 
I know it is and individually you can choose to do more to protect yourself . Just because shops open doesn’t mean people have to go.

I agree with that but the issue I raised with you is that nobody seems to know what the underlying causes are, if this lockdown is genuinely limiting the spread of the virus then coming out of lockdown will cause death rates to soar wouldn't they?
If there are more cases (I am just guessing here) then the "Not at risk" members of the population are putting everyone else at risk just by living their lives as normal.

So until the powers that be get a handle on this we should very much err on the side of caution no?
 
I agree with that but the issue I raised with you is that nobody seems to know what the underlying causes are, if this lockdown is genuinely limiting the spread of the virus then coming out of lockdown will cause death rates to soar wouldn't they?
If there are more cases (I am just guessing here) then the "Not at risk" members of the population are putting everyone else at risk just by living their lives as normal.

So until the powers that be get a handle on this we should very much err on the side of caution no?
The numbers of healthy young people dying of this are tiny. This virus is dangerous to the elderly and those with health issues. So when the lockdown is released those in the vulnerable groups should continue to be shielded. Everyone else should continue to take sensible precautions.
 
I agree with that but the issue I raised with you is that nobody seems to know what the underlying causes are, if this lockdown is genuinely limiting the spread of the virus then coming out of lockdown will cause death rates to soar wouldn't they?
If there are more cases (I am just guessing here) then the "Not at risk" members of the population are putting everyone else at risk just by living their lives as normal.

So until the powers that be get a handle on this we should very much err on the side of caution no?

yes of course , but we need to have one eye on the longer term economic consequences

Lock down until end of May fine longer and it’s going to be carnage on the other side

we are paying 80% of people salaries at the moment that is quite a lot of the country . This isn’t just small businesses doing this

football clubs, banks , law firms and accountants are all taking advantage of this

the country can do this for a limited period of time it cannot so this for 6 / 12 months

so at some stage we have to start thinking of a slow return to normal like a lot of other countries are starting to now do .
 
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