kaz7
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The pregnant nurse who died yesterday was healthy
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COVID-19 — Coronavirus
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80 more deaths in hospitals in Scotland, total now 779 - Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.
Says lockdown must be in place for "at least another three weeks
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The death rate for men with coronavirus was twice as high as that of women in England and Wales in March, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
The mortality rate for men was 97.5 deaths per 100,000 population, while for women it was 46.6 deaths.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...unce-another-three-weeks-of-lockdown-11973956
So men and black or ethnic minority are two things we are learning about this virus
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Spain's death toll rises 551 - from 18,579 to 19,130.
Wednesday's death figure was 523, and 567 on Tuesday. Thst's well below a peak of 950 reached on 2 April
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"In the past 10 days, the number of cases reported in Europe has nearly doubled to close to 1 million," Hans Kluge told reporters in an online briefing.
It means about 50% of the global burden of COVID-19 is in Europe, Mr Kluge said, adding that 84,000 people in Europe had died.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...unce-another-three-weeks-of-lockdown-11973956
Do you not think it is more due to health and lifestyle, rather than being a man or Bame.
Smoking, obesity, ale, etc ,
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We touched base on this I think in early March but think it's worth dropping this link on vaccines from a very good article specifically on the topic as a lot of people still continue to post about a September target date this year. I have also extrapolated a small section on this which may explain why there is a misconception of what is possible in time lines. Also a section on the SARS vaccine which I had understood to have been shelved after the intial virus ran itself out in 2004. Has commentary from Fauci in this as well.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
Over the past month, stock prices of a small pharmaceutical company named Inovio have more than doubled. In mid-January, it reportedly discovered a vaccine for the new coronavirus. This claim has been repeated in many news reports, even though it is technically inaccurate. Like other drugs, vaccines require a long testing process to see whether they indeed protect people from disease, and do so safely. What this company—and others—has done is copy a bit of the virus’s RNA that one day could prove to work as a vaccine. It’s a promising first step, but to call it a discovery is like announcing a new surgery after sharpening a scalpel.
Though genetic sequencing is now extremely fast, making vaccines is as much art as science. It involves finding a viral sequence that will reliably cause a protective immune-system memory but not trigger an acute inflammatory response that would itself cause symptoms. (While the influenza vaccine cannot cause the flu, the CDC warns that it can cause “flu-like symptoms.”) Hitting this sweet spot requires testing, first in lab models and animals, and eventually in people. One does not simply ship a billion viral gene fragments around the world to be injected into everyone at the moment of discovery.
Sars section on vaccine
“If we’re putting all our hopes in a vaccine as being the answer, we’re in trouble,” Jason Schwartz, an assistant professor at Yale School of Public Health who studies vaccine policy, told me. The best-case scenario, as Schwartz sees it, is the one in which this vaccine development happens far too late to make a difference for the current outbreak. The real problem is that preparedness for this outbreak should have been happening for the past decade, ever since SARS. “Had we not set the SARS-vaccine-research program aside, we would have had a lot more of this foundational work that we could apply to this new, closely related virus,” he said. But, as with Ebola, government funding and pharmaceutical-industry development evaporated once the sense of emergency lifted. “Some very early research ended up sitting on a shelf because that outbreak ended before a vaccine needed to be aggressively developed.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
Over the past month, stock prices of a small pharmaceutical company named Inovio have more than doubled. In mid-January, it reportedly discovered a vaccine for the new coronavirus. This claim has been repeated in many news reports, even though it is technically inaccurate. Like other drugs, vaccines require a long testing process to see whether they indeed protect people from disease, and do so safely. What this company—and others—has done is copy a bit of the virus’s RNA that one day could prove to work as a vaccine. It’s a promising first step, but to call it a discovery is like announcing a new surgery after sharpening a scalpel.
Though genetic sequencing is now extremely fast, making vaccines is as much art as science. It involves finding a viral sequence that will reliably cause a protective immune-system memory but not trigger an acute inflammatory response that would itself cause symptoms. (While the influenza vaccine cannot cause the flu, the CDC warns that it can cause “flu-like symptoms.”) Hitting this sweet spot requires testing, first in lab models and animals, and eventually in people. One does not simply ship a billion viral gene fragments around the world to be injected into everyone at the moment of discovery.
Sars section on vaccine
“If we’re putting all our hopes in a vaccine as being the answer, we’re in trouble,” Jason Schwartz, an assistant professor at Yale School of Public Health who studies vaccine policy, told me. The best-case scenario, as Schwartz sees it, is the one in which this vaccine development happens far too late to make a difference for the current outbreak. The real problem is that preparedness for this outbreak should have been happening for the past decade, ever since SARS. “Had we not set the SARS-vaccine-research program aside, we would have had a lot more of this foundational work that we could apply to this new, closely related virus,” he said. But, as with Ebola, government funding and pharmaceutical-industry development evaporated once the sense of emergency lifted. “Some very early research ended up sitting on a shelf because that outbreak ended before a vaccine needed to be aggressively developed.”
kaz7
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I don't kow,that is what we will find out,women smoke,drink and are fat as well ,every country is finding the same i think,different diets and healthcare,there is certainly something worth investigatingDo you not think it is more due to health and lifestyle, rather than being a man or Bame.
Smoking, obesity, ale, etc ,
kevin horlocks wand
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Do you not think it is more due to health and lifestyle, rather than being a man or Bame.
Smoking, obesity, ale, etc ,
there are going to be multiple reasons for this, but it certainly won’t be because the virus has eyes and can identify people’s gender or colour and it is a racist man hater.
PannickAtTheDisco
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Like the healthy young girl who it turned out had a heart attack?
I don't know how far people want to push underlying health conditions as an excuse, but there's a reason organisations such as CRY exist and they deserve a lot more funding, support and exposure.
kaz7
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I am not going to. go through Every one with you,you will just say the opposite as usual !!Like the healthy young girl who it turned out had a heart attack?
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More than nine in 10 people dying with coronavirus have an underlying health condition, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.
The ONS looked at nearly 4,000 deaths during March in England and Wales where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate.
In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems.
The most common was heart disease, followed by dementia and respiratory illness.
On average, people dying also had roughly three other health conditions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783
Not sure why dementia should be the second most contributing factor. On the other hand heart disease being the main factor does seem to tally with this report
https://www.ibtimes.sg/new-fact-rea...t-problem-not-lungs-says-italian-doctor-42838
interesting that most have three underlying health issues. I wonder if these are health issues that were already known pre death or only found post mortem, if they are doing these currently which I would guess they aren’t due to number of deaths.
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Coronary diseases, osteoporosis, lupus, depression and flu can look different in men and women. With regards to flu the female hormone estradiol aids them to recover from flu more quickly than men.Do you not think it is more due to health and lifestyle, rather than being a man or Bame.
Smoking, obesity, ale, etc ,
Lighter skin absorbs UV rays from the Sun to produce VitD from the cholesterol in skin cells much more efficiently than darker skin.
kevin horlocks wand
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Coronary diseases, osteoporosis, lupus, depression and flu can look different in men and women. With regards to flu the female hormone estradiol aids them to recover from flu more quickly than men.
so man flu is real?
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