COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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lancs blue said:
I'm not sure the doses are there, kaz. Having asthma I'm usually on the freebie list, 10 days ago I got a text from the local health centre asking if I wanted a flu jab as supplies were "limited". I replied that I did but still haven't received any appointment details.
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My wife has asthma and gets one every year, but this year it just looked like she was so far down the list due to being young that she wouldn't get one until halfway through flu season. So instead I just got her booked in at Boots for one, sure it's £14, but I'd rather pay that than not have her have a jab until mid November (which looked like the earliest she might get here free one)

At Boots, they've been short on doses so kept telling me to try again next week, then on the third attempt I was able to book her in for later that day.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Infections in Scotland today

166 aged 65+
32 of whom are 85+

77 aged under 15
22 of whom are under 5

179 aged 15-24

701 aged 25-64

1x death was in the 75-84 age range.
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That is starting to nudge up to 20% over 65 which is worrying given it was a under half that a few weeks ago.
 
Here are the current worst infected areas in England on the latest watch list. With its weekly Pop score.


Blackburn 730

Rossendale 640

Knowsley 615

Oldham 592

Rochdale 570

Salford 567

Wigan 561

Liverpool 544

Every one in the NW. The others are in Northern Ireland.

This data is a few days old as usual but last night on here i posted the weekly Pop Scores for all GM boroughs to compare. That list includes the past few days data too.

I flagged up the Blackburn and Rossendale numbers in my recent reports as they were startling.

Currently only Bury 511 Manchester 505 Tameside 486 Trafford 431 and Stockport 376 would not be on the updated list by numbers I suspect.

Bolton on the date of the data above was just below Liverpool but is now at 562 so would be on there. Wigan in those days has moved up to 628 and would be higher. Probably above Knowsley which has had several goodish days since the date of that list whereas Wigan added 31 points yesterday alone.

Rochdale went up to over 600 but has fallen back in those few days to be 580. Salford has slowly edged up above it to 591.

But Oldham has escalated upward to 644. So will be challenging for the top.

Just as Manchester has slipped off with low Pop Score rises lately Liverpool has had a good few days and might not be on the list next time it appears.
 
Does anyone have the figure for total number of people still furloughed as of today? I’ve only been able to find cumulative figures from when the scheme began.

furlough ends this week, what sort of uptick in redundancies are we looking at?
 
mosssideblue said:
You never had a point to miss
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My point was the obese in the country are and always have been a huge drain on the NHS, not just this year, they cost millions if not billions in care, treatment for the underlying issues associated with it. But you knew that’s what I meant, as you do about my point regarding the government just making rules up without proper debate and votes taking place, again you know what I meant but you just fancy an argument and I can’t be arsed going backwards and forwards with you.
I’ll stick to my view that we’re fucking in the economy now and for all our future generations to come when we should be telling those that are vulnerable to take their own precautions and let the rest of us get on with it. I get it that you’re in the category of at risk and don’t want to be alone in isolation but it’s my view that you should look after yourself.
 
inchy14 said:
My point was the obese in the country are and always have been a huge drain on the NHS, not just this year, they cost millions if not billions in care, treatment for the underlying issues associated with it. But you knew that’s what I meant, as you do about my point regarding the government just making rules up without proper debate and votes taking place, again you know what I meant but you just fancy an argument and I can’t be arsed going backwards and forwards with you.
I’ll stick to my view that we’re fucking in the economy now and for all our future generations to come when we should be telling those that are vulnerable to take their own precautions and let the rest of us get on with it. I get it that you’re in the category of at risk and don’t want to be alone in isolation but it’s my view that you should look after yourself.
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i have done my bit down from 17 stone to 15 this year! Body fat down to 24% and falling.
 
inchy14 said:
My point was the obese in the country are and always have been a huge drain on the NHS, not just this year, they cost millions if not billions in care, treatment for the underlying issues associated with it. But you knew that’s what I meant, as you do about my point regarding the government just making rules up without proper debate and votes taking place, again you know what I meant but you just fancy an argument and I can’t be arsed going backwards and forwards with you.
I’ll stick to my view that we’re fucking in the economy now and for all our future generations to come when we should be telling those that are vulnerable to take their own precautions and let the rest of us get on with it. I get it that you’re in the category of at risk and don’t want to be alone in isolation but it’s my view that you should look after yourself.
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Why would I be alone and how should I be looking after myself.

But you challenged my claim that those ignoring the rules were causing more damage to the country than obesity and off you went on a tangent, totally failing to explain why
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Does anyone have the figure for total number of people still furloughed as of today? I’ve only been able to find cumulative figures from when the scheme began.

furlough ends this week, what sort of uptick in redundancies are we looking at?
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Does this 2.8m figure sound right?
www.bbc.co.uk

'Millions of jobs' at risk as furlough lifeline nears end

Firms face higher furlough costs from Thursday, as Labour warns 2.8 million jobs hang in the balance.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

133,055 businesses cannot trade or will operate at reducted capacity due to the new T3 restrictions it says..

I expect Manchester will be hit badly.. a few people will be nervy as a lot of companies will be serving the notice on or before the end of the scheme (this Saturday!)
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Does anyone have the figure for total number of people still furloughed as of today? I’ve only been able to find cumulative figures from when the scheme began.

furlough ends this week, what sort of uptick in redundancies are we looking at?
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I'm convinced my work have actually forgotten there is people on furlough and will be in for a surprise on Monday
 
Dr Eric Caumes, head of the infections and tropical diseases department at Paris' Pitie-Salpetriere Hospital, said the country needs to go under lockdown again as cases continue to surge.We lost control of the epidemic but that doesn't date from yesterday," he said on broadcaster Franceinfo. "We lost control of the epidemic several weeks ago already."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is planning a "lockdown light" which would mainly focus on the closure of bars and restaurants to slow down the second wave of coronavirus

Norway to tighten restrictions as cases rise
Prime Minister Erna Solberg said stricter rules would come into force, which will affect private gatherings.

Authorities in Albania have decided to open a new coronavirus hospital after the existing two have reached their capacity at 320 beds.

Netherlands daily cases
The country has reported a daily record of 10,343 new cases
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Swiss health authorities have said the total number of cases reached 17,440 over the weekend.
Switzerland's government is considering tightening restrictions to slow down the spread of the virus.


Surging in america

last i read spain were recording big numbers

it is not just us
 
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inchy14 said:
My point was the obese in the country are and always have been a huge drain on the NHS, not just this year, they cost millions if not billions in care, treatment for the underlying issues associated with it. But you knew that’s what I meant, as you do about my point regarding the government just making rules up without proper debate and votes taking place, again you know what I meant but you just fancy an argument and I can’t be arsed going backwards and forwards with you.
I’ll stick to my view that we’re fucking in the economy now and for all our future generations to come when we should be telling those that are vulnerable to take their own precautions and let the rest of us get on with it. I get it that you’re in the category of at risk and don’t want to be alone in isolation but it’s my view that you should look after yourself.
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Look after yourself = someone fit not caring that we might have been in lockdown since march and will have to continue all winter , out of sight , out of mind

I say again, half at least of nhs workers are in high risk groups, should they not go to work and watch it collapse ?
 
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