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Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Mental Health issues must be increasing dramatically now. I class myself as fairly resilient but this is grinding me down now. I am starting to wonder what the point is of a well paid but stressful job when there is no reward at the end. No holiday, no pub, no footie. Just another weekend of pissing down rain and strong winds to look forward to. I know it needs doing and am all for a break if it will help but regardless of what’s needed, it’s fucking grim this whole situation. Warrington hospital now has more inpatients with Covids than it did in April.
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Save your money and look foward to a massive blowout when this is over , you could save up enough to be able to stop working even
 
Other news from the numbers in watch areas today.

Manchester's 474 was the biggest number today. Birmingham had 470. But still has not made 2000 in the Pop scores to Manchester's 3549 which shows hpw that gap is far bigger than 4 in relative terms due to the Pop(ulation) difference.

Bradford at 436 has now added 4000 cases in the past 9 days and is in real trouble.

Blackburn was up again to 184 and its Pop score rose by 123 today as that is a huge number for a small town. Only Wigan did worse today and they are both vying for top spot as worst in UK right now. Blackburn also burst into the 4000 club with this bad day and also went ahead of Knowsley to now have the highest pop score in the UK at 4110.

On Merseyside the tier 3 seems to be working out well and if you look at Liverpool's numbers just pre - all in the high 400s or 500s. They have not been higher than 323 in a week and under 300 for four straight days.

Wigan had 124 more cases than Liverpool today.

Knowsley has done even better and this Wigan like basket case is in enough control that its once 300 point Pop Score lead as worst in UK has been overhauled since tier 3 by Blackburn.

In the first 3 days of tier 3 Knowsley had 499 cases, next 3 days 374, next 3 days 342 and 330 next 3 days. So it appears to be coming down.

Rossendale had its worse case number in a few days (66) and is faring worse than Burnley now. Its weekly Pop score is around that of its neighbour Rochdale in the early 600s.

Leicester had its worst day in some time with 213 cases. But has not yet even entered the 3000 club - though it will do so tomorrow now being at 2971. It was several hundred in front of the UK as the only place in the 2000s during all Summer. Now is probably not even in the top 50. Every borough in GM apart from Trafford and Stockport now has a higher score than Leicester. Oldham - which was 200 or so behind in August - is now 883 ahead of it!
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
What is this clueless government doing to sort this out?
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Pretty much the same as the rest of europe I'm afraid, it's firefighting, ie reacting to the latest shit news. There's a lot worse in europe than us.

If you compare our population to other countries, France, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands all doing worse, Belgium per population to us would have had 120k cases today, France had 47K (smaller population), Spain about the same from about 2/3 our population, Poland equivalent of about 40k here, Switzerland about 68k equivalent, just a few. Germany who have done so well, have gone from 5k per day to nearly 20k per day in 2 weeks.
 
Healdplace said:
GM scoreboard:

Manchester 474 - up from 441. Total cases 19, 620. Weekly 2857. Pop score up 86 to enter 3500 club at 3549. Weekly Pop up 24 to 517.

Wigan 419 - up from 335. Hard to believe how far out out of control this has got. Something has to be done surely? Like Bolton topped 10K cases and unbelievably half of that has been added in the last 17 days. Total cases 10,230. Weekly 2313. Catching Manchester for goodness sake after logging under 30 in a week just 3 months ago. Pop score up by the highest in the UK today of 128 - one of the worst ever single day rises. Enters the 3000 club and departs it without touching ground to reach 3113. Now just 3 GM boroughs still in the 2000s.Though only for 24 hours (see below) . Weekly Pop up 29 to 704. Will now be high up the UK red watch list with Oldham who must be near top.

Salford 280 - another big score here up from 227. Total cases 8327. Weekly 1650. Pop score up 108 to enter the 3200 club at 3217. Weekly Pop up 36 to 637.

Bolton 263 - up from 256. Total cases 10,009. Weekly 1650. Pop score up 92 to enter the 2400 club ay 3481. Weekly Pop down 4 to 574.

Oldham 245 - down from 306 Total cases 9138. Weekly 1732. Pop score up 103 to enter the 3800 club at 3854. Highest Pop score in GM. Weekly Pop up 28 to 731.

Stockport 224 - down from 236. Total cases 6845. Weekly 1358. (Record high weekly and now far behind the lead in this measure it has held for many weeks). Pop score up 77 to enter the 2300 club at 2333 after one day in the 2200s. Weekly Pop up 28 to 463. Only Wigan and Oldham have had worse numbers over the past 4 days than here. Still at risk of becoming Wigan mark two.

Rochdale 212 - down from 238. Total cases 7989. Weekly 1358. Being above Stockport in case numbers and an identical case total to them in past week shows that Rochdale has been going in the right direction whilst Stockport did the opposite. Pop score up 95 to enter the 3500 club at 3592. Weekly Pop score up 6 to 611.

Tameside 185 - down from 186. Total cases 6761. Weekly 1235. Pop score up 82 to 2985. Will become the 8th GM borough into the 3000s tomorrow. Weekly Pop 18 to 545.

Bury 173 = up from 163. Total cases 6169. Weekly 1062. Pulling clear with Trafford from the crowd and in a two horse race for lowest weekly GM score. Pop score up 91 to enter the 3200 club at 3230. Weekly pop up 5 to 556.

Trafford 157 - up from `141. Total cases 5974. Weekly 1055. Keeps the weekly best in GM by just 7 from Bury but over 1000 makes it relative. Pop score up 66 - lowest of the day again to enter the 2500 club at 2517. Cuts the gap for the Pop score with Stockport to just184 - reducing by about 60 in a week. What looked an impossible lead no longer is current form. Weekly Pop up 13 to 445 which increases its lead on Stockport as the lowest in GM i the weekly table. If Wigan is the disaster of the past few weeks and Stockport the one to be most concerned about racing upwards Trafford is currently the reliable bright spot and seems to be in most control of numbers.

But as we saw with Stockport things can change fast.
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Is there anywhere that gives up to date info of which parts of Wigan borough are being hit worst, i.e. is it round the town centre or further afield (eg Leigh) ?. Last week I was hearing quite a few ambulances here in Astley but not heard any over the last few days.
 
york away to this! said:
Perhaps the uk politicians should be forced to come up with a strategy that works, avoiding huge rises in infections, just like the rest of the world is doing?
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I'm not saying I have the answers, noone does. That said we were a month late locking down in March, Boris brushed it off and was too busy gallobanting around the world initially.
7 months in track and trace is not fit for purpose yet were paying idiots millions of pounds!
London is treated like a different country whilst the north as per usual suffers the most.
I also find it baffling that the UK is an island, surely this should mean theoretically that we should be faring a lot better in our stats?
I'm sorry but noone has a fucking clue, they have bowed to the doomsday scientists and SAGE from day 1 and the continual changing policies are not working and will never work.
Sack the lot I say they are useless.
 
CJH said:
Is there anywhere that gives up to date info of which parts of Wigan borough are being hit worst, i.e. is it round the town centre or further afield (eg Leigh) ?. Last week I was hearing quite a few ambulances here in Astley but not heard any over the last few days.
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coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard
coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk

Put in your postcode or WN1 1AA if you just want to see Wigan.

Zoom in to individual street level map, click on wards to get full data on current situation.

Or at least as it was 5 days ago. As this is the actual reallocated to the day of the test being carried out data. Not the raw test data that came back today that creates the daily lists I post which will not all be cases from literally yesterday. In fact most will not be from yesterday. Just over the past few days when the tests were done, sent off and finally returned by the lab and tallied today.

Hence these maps wait 5 days for most cases to be reallocated and so are a bit behind the curve date wise but more accurate to the day numbers wise.
 
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BLUEMATT23 said:
I'm not saying I have the answers, noone does. That said we were a month late locking down in March, Boris brushed it off and was too busy gallobanting around the world initially.
7 months in track and trace is not fit for purpose yet were paying idiots millions of pounds!
London is treated like a different country whilst the north as per usual suffers the most.
I also find it baffling that the UK is an island, surely this should mean theoretically that we should be faring a lot better in our stats?
I'm sorry but noone has a fucking clue, they have bowed to the doomsday scientists and SAGE from day 1 and the continual changing policies are not working and will never work.
Sack the lot I say they are useless.
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The medical experts you mean ?
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yes Karen
The projections that Vallance and that other clown come up with are consistently wrong.
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Well the last one whitty reported has been spot on , it is not them, it is a whole host of experts who come up with it , the told the gov to lock down earlier last time and are telling them now it should have happened again three weeks ago , they advise , the gov decide
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
So 7 months on from this.
Lockdowns, tiers, people locked up nothing seems to be working.
What is this clueless government doing to sort this out? Where is the strategy l?
We are in danger of letting the virus rule our lives forever.
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doing all they can not to let Hospitals overfill, it’s the toughest balancing act with trying to keep the economy going - as much as I would love to pin it all on Boris, the whole of Europe and most of the world is in the same boat.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
So 7 months on from this.
Lockdowns, tiers, people locked up nothing seems to be working.
What is this clueless government doing to sort this out? Where is the strategy l?
We are in danger of letting the virus rule our lives forever.
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You think this virus is only affecting UK?There are lots of countries whose governments clueless or not are struggling with the virus. France and Germany are having to re-think their policies.
As far as I am aware none of any of these countries around the world have blamed our government.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
doing all they can not to let Hospitals overfill, it’s the toughest balancing act with trying to keep the economy going - as much as I would love to pin it all on Boris, the whole of Europe and most of the world is in the same boat.
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I posted some equivalent numbers earlier to show the europe wide situation, Belgium is eye watering if you compare our population sizes, some of the smaller countries (which I didn't include) even worse.

Pretty much all governments appear as "clueless" as ours.
 
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