COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Eds said:
It's odd how London with its population, tube travel etc, all the protests have managed to have less than half the number of reported cases than we have in the NW. I wonder if it's because they had it worse to start with and since train / tube travel is well down there are fewer interactions compared to the morons who inhabit the NW. Strange anomaly.
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I live above a commuter belt railway station car park, and though it's empirical evidence, the car park remains largely empty. From my bedroom I can see most of the car park and overspill, and midweek before covid it was pretty much full every day. I don't know how many it holds, but I would think about 500 + overspill, when lockdown started out of curiosity I started to count the cars say once a week. Early on it was in the mid 20's, by June I'd say mid to high 30's, the most I've counted is around 55, and yesterday it was back to high 30's. This station has a direct train every 1/2 hour into London, and about half way in joins up with Metropolitan Tube line, and the rest of the tube network, where they run concurrently for a while. I'd say very few are travelling into London at the moment, my drive into work on the outskirts (just inside the M25) suggests road traffic is also a little lower than normal.

My own office is working, but the section I'm in is at 50% of normal, with one shift in the office, and the other working from home (we cover 17 hours per day), this is not because of covid, but because of what and how we do the job, as some aspects can't be done from home for security reasons, but we rearranged the work to facilitate working from home.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
What...? Even after we'd built all the Nightingale hospitals that we never used?

To go into total denial and dismiss what was one of the better options out of hand is ridiculous IMHO... still this is a forum where a range of opinions need to be discussed.
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The nightingales have been in use, the belfast one had a nurse patient die in there two weeks ago

As has been said a million times , it is a good thing we didnt have to use the nightingales much and you cant have staff sitting waiting so they have been assigned different roles , the manchester nightingale is open now or will be next week
 
Kompany Car said:
Antibodies which are produced by B cells aren’t the full picture. They are finding T cells which regulate the immune response and produce cytotoxins are maybe more important.
A good article on it here ...
www.newscientist.com

What are T-cells and why have they become a political football?

Scanning electron micrograph of a human T-cell Throughout the coronavirus pandemic there have been fierce debates over the science – when to lock down, whether face coverings help and whether children are less susceptible, for example. The latest row is over whether we have been ignoring a...
www.newscientist.com www.newscientist.com
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I read on a link yesterday i think that there is no specifictest they can use to give reliable data, yet , still early days . Feels like nothing exsisted pre covid but it has only been about nine months
 
Two Gun Bob said:
A one day course you say ? Cant be all that difficult keeping an eye on someone who's fast asleep, so why not. If ever I succumb to this dreadful virus I shall take my chances at home with a nice Lemsip, than chance my arm with some excitable volunteer, as commendable as they all may be. I might draw a bad straw and get some nutjob that likes taking anal temperatures and that cant be right in any civilized setting,
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The traiinng is how to use ppe right lovely , i do like your option though
 
ctwrd said:
If there are 100,000 people infected each day in the uk as estimated. Wouldn’t that mean that 1 in 67 people have it and that on average every 67 days the whole population has then had it?

I just don’t understand how if there’s 100,000 new infections every day how that is not fantastic news and means there is no need to lockdown as the hospitalisation/death numbers is even smaller as a % of total cases than is the case based on the tested case numbers
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670 days mate
 
Unhappily I have to report that GM had another really bad day and recorded its highest ever numbers today.

The reductions need to come fast or GM may end up in tier 4. Merseyside down again. Indeed so much that Knowsley lost its record of being the worst place in the UK and Blackburn now has the worst Pop Score in Britain.

GM had 2632 cases today - 103 up on yesterday.

Nobody was under 150 today. And seven boroughs over 200 again.

Manchester had the highest numbers in the UK - even above Birmingham, Bolton became the second GM borough to top 10,000 cases and Wigan goes from basket case to catastrophe to possibly needing a wall building round it.

This current situation cannot go on without full lock down being inevitable.
 
bluegray said:
I caught covid back in May. After being clear for 28 days I went to Plymouth Grove blood centre to give plasma. After each donation I get an email within a couple of days saying my antibodys are still at a level in which they can use my plasma to give to ill patients. Today was my 7th time with another appointment booked for 2 weeks. Be interesting to see how long I keep producing them, I read an article the other day in which a man gave his 10th and was the first to get to that number.
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Well done mate , i am not allowed due to general health , i am gutted
 
Sky News has uncovered data that shows in at least one part of the UK, COVID-19 care home cases have exceeded spring's levels.The statistics seen by Sky News, collected by the NHS for internal monitoring, show that the number of active COVID cases in care homes in Leeds exceeded 200 early this week. This is considerably higher than the peak of 160 active cases recorded in May.

news.sky.com

Coronavirus: New data shows COVID-19 cases in Leeds care homes higher than spring peak

The statistics seen by Sky News show that the number of active COVID cases in care homes in Leeds exceeded 200 early this week.
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Cityfan said:
Zoe study is estimating something different, so the numbers cannot be compared.
The Zoe study only looks at symptomatic cases so if 60% are asymptomatic the numbers are comparable.
Can't remember last time ONS was updated.
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The Zoe study takes into account Asymptomatic infections. The ONS study catches asymptomatic infections.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
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2820 new cases yesterday in Sweden. The infection has taken off like a rocket ship over the last week - hardly suprising as face masks are not mandatory in shared indoor spaces so the reproductive rate is not halved by wearing them.
That would equate to 31,020 cases in the UK as we have 11 times the population.
For a country with a low population density that is really crap.
 
west didsblue said:
Why the comparison with Sweden? Compare Sweden to its similar neighbours like Norway, Denmark and Finland and it’s doing really badly.

Our comparison is with France, Spain, Germany and Italy and we did the worst of the lot first time round. This time it looks much more comparable. It’s densely populated countries like South Korea and Vietnam that we should have learnt lessons from before the second wave, not Sweden.
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Italy, Belgium and The Netherlands are our comparison points as they have similar population densities to England.
 
Healdplace said:
Unhappily I have to report that GM had another really bad day and recorded its highest ever numbers today.

The reductions need to come fast or GM may end up in tier 4. Merseyside down again. Indeed so much that Knowsley lost its record of being the worst place in the UK and Blackburn now has the worst Pop Score in Britain.

GM had 2632 cases today - 103 up on yesterday.

Nobody was under 150 today. And seven boroughs over 200 again.

Manchester had the highest numbers in the UK - even above Birmingham, Bolton became the second GM borough to top 10,000 cases and Wigan goes from basket case to catastrophe to possibly needing a wall building round it.

This current situation cannot go on without full lock down being inevitable.
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Excuse my ignorance but thought there were only 3 levels
 
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