Opinion polls suggest overwhelming numbers support the lockdown and do not want the measures removed.they are just reporting what the public is demanding - most people I know are asking when it’s gonna be lifted
Austerity? Europe-wide. We had a financial crash. Debt was the enemy or so we were told.Do you really beleive the public sector 'bear the brunt' of the economic consequences? I don't see that in the slightest.
Otherwise, absolutely valid points, don't disagree with any of that.
wife working from home, shes on vulnerable category, im a firefighter so working as normalAre you both on full pay and working from home?
There’s lots of people struggling but the majority of the population are sticking by the rules to safeguards communities (even people with no income).
I say the brunt because since 2007 ive lost £5k in real terms from my wage, even before this when the world was recovering and execs still getting million pound bonuses and MPs getting rises I along with many others who are now been applauded were been shafted by these happy clappers from parliamnentDo you really beleive the public sector 'bear the brunt' of the economic consequences? I don't see that in the slightest.
Otherwise, absolutely valid points, don't disagree with any of that.
Are your thoughts along the line of perhaps we should not have bothered because the majority of the dead are the elderly ie the action failed?one man's bellend.................
But on a more serious note.
What have we experienced? In densely populated areas a significant number of old people have died. In areas densely populated with old people it's worse (care homes). Anyone under 65 in reasonable health is not at risk bar a tiny few unlucky ones. To combat this people have sacrificed their livelihoods. Young people with young families. They have lost years of wealth accumulation in terms of pay and pension. And they have done it to prolong the life of the old and infirm. How long have they prolonged those lives and at what cost?
I don't know the answer. I know it feels like the right thing to do but I don't know if it really is. For every life that we as a planet have prolonged by 1 month, one year, 10 years, how many have we shortened by the same amount by the actions of the lockdown? What is the ultimate cost of these actions?
I don't know any of the answers, nor do I instinctively know what is right and wrong. I know my rather comfortable last ten years of working life up to retirement have gone out the window and my future planning is in chaos. But I don't instinctively feel that's the fault of old and infirm people who are dying. I would like to blame someone just to get it off my chest but I can't see an obvious culprit.
You live your life trying to find a moral comfort zone to inhabit. The boundaries change over time. You try and do the best for your family. Then someone tells you to stay at home. Stop working. Lose your job. Build up unsustainable debt. Risk losing your family home.
I guess at some point each of us will reach a moment where we feel so threatened by the circumstance we find ourselves in that we need to change it. If that means protesting peacefully against the lockdown then that's a pretty docile response. When people start killing each other for food, then I will worry.
Bit of a wine fuelled ramble but that's where my head is right now.
wife working from home, shes on vulnerable category, im a firefighter so working as normal
Cheers pal shes doing fine and I think like many others in her position will be the last to go back to work and maybe even change the way she does work, I think this has shown how many dont actually need to go in 5 days a week, id build her a little office to work from home, but only when im at work lol.Well done mate. I hope the Missus is OK
Gelson posted a video about 10/20 pages back that explained it pretty well, one done by a Nobel prize winning scientist.Are your thoughts along the line of perhaps we should not have bothered because the majority of the dead are the elderly ie the action failed?
Unfortunately the obsession of some on here with the death league is morbid.If any way of listening to him, anyone obsessed with counting deaths should listen to this UK statistician professor Ian Diamond that was on Andrew Marr this morning, explained very well about how we are right at the top with regards to official reporting and keen to get deaths registered faster than practically any other country. Then, as we’ve said on here, confirmed that you won’t really be able to compare deaths until all of this is over.