COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[sir baconface]

No it is soap that kills the virus,this is why they don't want the public to have them as there are many downsides in the handling ,cleaning and reusing them that makes them not much better than useless

Yet if they were widely available they would be made compulsory in particular situations. Just like they are in one or two other countries.

As many on here have said, intuition tells you that masks - even improvised ones - are significantly better than nothing. I don’t need an expert to tell me that. And if some“expert” says any different, I won’t believe him.

This is about supply, demand and provisioning deficiencies.

 

[robbieh]

Correct only in this stupid country
You couldn't make it up

We also probably overestimate the number of people who'd want to visit even with no quarantine. If you are from Australia would you want to leave your relatively safe country to come to the UK.

 

[George Hannah]

Siren voices - here's Dr John
"Ten reasons why I believe that it is wrong to continue with lockdown and why we should start to reverse it immediately and rapidly."

1. You cannot understand the significance of this virus simply by looking at the raw death figures

2. The policy response to the virus has been driven by modelling of Covid – not other factors

3. We don’t know if lockdown is working

4. We should ease the lockdown to save lives

5. Lockdown is not sustainable

6. Lockdown directly harms those most likely to be affected by coronavirus

7. Lockdown directly harms those who will be largely unaffected by coronavirus

8. The health service has not been overwhelmed nor likely to be

9. The virus is almost certainly not a constant threat

10. People can be trusted to behave sensibly"

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ten-reasons-to-end-the-lockdown-now

 

[goatersnipple]

14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.

Coming in at the end of the month.
Why not today.
And who makes sure people do it ?

 

[George Hannah]

Coming in at the end of the month.
Why not today.
And who makes sure people do it ?

You're right, nobody would notice if it's in Buxton ;)

 

[yeseye]

Correct only in this stupid country
You couldn't make it up

Hey, we quarantined a couple of coach loads early days out of 18 million .

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Siren voices - here's Dr John
"Ten reasons why I believe that it is wrong to continue with lockdown and why we should start to reverse it immediately and rapidly."

1. You cannot understand the significance of this virus simply by looking at the raw death figures

2. The policy response to the virus has been driven by modelling of Covid – not other factors

3. We don’t know if lockdown is working

4. We should ease the lockdown to save lives

5. Lockdown is not sustainable

6. Lockdown directly harms those most likely to be affected by coronavirus

7. Lockdown directly harms those who will be largely unaffected by coronavirus

8. The health service has not been overwhelmed nor likely to be

9. The virus is almost certainly not a constant threat

10. People can be trusted to behave sensibly"

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ten-reasons-to-end-the-lockdown-now

Unfortunately they have rammed home the message of stay at home or you are going to die for the last few months so trying to now change the messaging and release lockdown is going to be even harder than locking down in the first place.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.

Heathrow only started trialing, yes.. TRIALING, temperature checks on passengers a few days ago. Several months late. It’s a shambles. This country is a disgrace.

 

[marco]

Heathrow only started trialing, yes.. TRIALING, temperature checks on passengers a few days ago. Several months late. It’s a shambles. This country is a disgrace.

not even going to be proper quarentine in that sense, its fly in and go to you destination and stay in for 14 days and there MAY be spot checks, they need to open up local hotels at airports and force quarantine not play at it

 

[BlueAnorak]

So we are now adopting a policy that Singapore, Korea, NZ and others implemented at the beginning.

It would appear so. The horse is long gone from the stable now though.
The reason it wasn't done in the beginning?
Our fatalistic flu pandemic plan just didnt consider it as an option due to the sheer volume of travellers passing through Heathrow.
From some of the evidence provided to the Health select committee, I believe that SAGE thought the disease was already well established in the UK due to infectious people returning from skiing holidays in the Itallian Alps and then subsequently from half term holidays in Italy and Spain and his would dwarf any effect from locking the stable door after the horse had bolted. A delay of a week or so was all that was considered possible and it may have simply moved any 2nd spike back into November.