COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Churchlawtonblue]

They need to get this AZ vaccine approved and rolled out asap. Does it matter whether its 1 jab 1.5 jabs or 2 jabs, if its safe its safe, that's all they need to decide on as far as i can see. The longer they prevaricate and delay on a decision the more people are going to die. I bet millions of people would be happy to take the thing now, me included.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Grim numbers today and situation.

I try and stay positive to think about all those vaccinated today as well and the closer we edge to ending this shit.

 

[Healdplace]

Hospital data in England is looking just as scary as the rest.

Biggest single day rise in patients in weeks up 1076 to 17, 709

Ventilated patients up 60 to 1327.

After weeks of falling numbers when the north got things under control we are now beyond the worst point we were when it was the north driving it and the number of ventilated patients is higher than it was in early May.

And the number of patients is one more day like today away from exceeding the numbers in hospital in England in April. Just 1000 or so lower than the peak of the first wave.

Why are there not daily press conferences? You would think there are no questions to ask.

 

[mosssideblue]

They need to get this AZ vaccine approved and rolled out asap. Does it matter whether its 1 jab 1.5 jabs or 2 jabs, if its safe its safe, that's all they need to decide on as far as i can see. The longer they prevaricate and delay on a decision the more people are going to die. I bet millions of people would be happy to take the thing now, me included.

Once it is approved and available, I'm sure it will be a priority to get people through

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Fuck me, nearly 37k cases across the UK

 

[kaz7]

The number of cases reported is a drop in the ocean and vastly under the true numbers , as well as deaths outside of 28 days , still hate that arbitary cut off

 

[cleavers]

The number of cases reported is a drop in the ocean and vastly under the true numbers , as well as deaths outside of 28 days , still hate that arbitary cut off

Off topic I know, but were you able to get your car ?

 

[johnnytapia]

Because in his eyes the world is about to end. He has also predicted that even if we lockdown fully now we will have 8 times the daily number of deaths as we have today in 2 weeks, lets see if that's correct as well. There will probably be 500 reported today with it being a Tuesday, so that will be 8,000 a day by New Year. I'm starting to think he is Neil Ferguson.

8 x 500 = ?

 

[Healdplace]

UK Cases 36, 804 from 403, 930 pillar 1 & 2 tests = 9.1% positive. Worst yet and climbing daily.

England cases 32, 288 from 356, 738 tests = 9.0%

All the numbers are worse than at any time we went into full national lockdown before.

You have to ask why we are still not?

 

[cleavers]

Ventilated patients up 60 to 1327.

I suppose there a crumb of comfort in that these numbers are still below half of the total's in April, with deaths probably just over half, which shows that better treatments are helping.

 

[grunge]

UK Cases 36, 804 from 403, 930 pillar 1 & 2 tests = 9.1% positive. Worst yet and climbing daily.

England cases 32, 288 from 356, 738 tests = 9.0%

All the numbers are worse than at any time we went into full national lockdown before.

You have to ask why we are still not?

I was about to post about the positive percentage. back in 1st May it was 7%. 22nd Sept it was 2%

 

[kaz7]

Off topic I know, but were you able to get your car ?

Had to do a bank loan so i can do it electronicaly , have to wait on a security code coming in the post to unlock the funds then the garage will deliver it , bit long winded but we will get there in a couple of days

 

[BlueHammer85]

All the numbers are worse than at any time we went into full national lockdown before.

You have to ask why we are still not?

Economy/jobs/livelihoods

 

[roubaixtuesday]

is it possible for a new variant to develop whist at sea ?

Sure, I don't see why not. But far more likely in a large land based population than a tiny sea based one. Nothing is certain

 

[Healdplace]

England regions hospital numbers: Nobody is out of this now sadly.

London Patients up to 3367 (rise of 360 in day). Last wk 2330. Highest number since 23 April.
Ventilators up 23 to 378. Last wk 292.

Midlands Patients up to 3389 (rise of 86). Last wk 3286. Ventilators up 11 to 254. Last wk 257.

NE/Yorks Patients up to 2530 (rise of 66). Last wk 2483. Ventilators stay at 149. Last wk 145.

And NORTH WEST

Patients up to 2399 (rise of 84). Last wk 2325. Ventilators up 9 to 165. Last wk 160.


Starting to reverse from the fall to the stall to the now inevitable climb back up to more deaths in the NW over coming weeks sadly.

 

[cleavers]

Unlikely to be imported - it would be very unlikely to be exported from somewhere without first causing a big outbreak where it came from. What we see is what you'd expect if it originated in Kent - 85% of all COVID in Kent is now this variant(!) No knowledge of it existing anywhere else in the world, and you'd expect it to out-compete other variants very rapidly. (the South African variant mentioned is actually different, but shares a common feature which may be significant in its behaviour).

Usual caveat - this assumes the initial findings pan out.

Speculation is that an immunocompromised patient may have incubated the virus for a lot longer than normal patients, giving time for mutations. But I think it's speculation really.

I see the bbc are now running a story about how we discovered it, because of the strength of our surveillance and that it could indeed have originated outside the UK, where the surveillance is nowhere near as good, and data not comparable.

 

[Keith Moncrieff]

I see the bbc are now running a story about how we discovered it, because of the strength of our surveillance and that it could indeed have originated outside the UK, where the surveillance is nowhere near as good, and data not comparable.

Should keep our mouths shut in future

 

[Healdplace]

I suppose there a crumb of comfort in that these numbers are still below half of the total's in April, with deaths probably just over half, which shows that better treatments are helping.

It does but as I noted from the data yesterday the percentage of people on ventilators versus patients in London is significantly higher than in the NW peak a month or two ago. Which needs explaining and MIGHT infer that the patients in London with this new mutation are more likely to go onto ventilators and perhaps die.

Not a direct correlation but a disparity that needs researching as I suggested yesterday.

 

[ganganvince]

I see the bbc are now running a story about how we discovered it, because of the strength of our surveillance and that it could indeed have originated outside the UK, where the surveillance is nowhere near as good, and data not comparable.

Saw that earlier apparently half of the total worldwide sequencing comes from the UK.

 

[cleavers]

Should keep our mouths shut in future

What, and not tell the world of an important development of the pandemic ?

That worked well for China a year ago.