COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Vic]

German study finds markers in normal urine samples to early warn before CV cases become severe:

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(20)31041-2.pdf

Interesting. Some theories that mouthwash could be useful. Dunno how useful, but we'll see I guess.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...er-mouthwash-can-reduce-transmission-11988124

Unfortunate juxtaposition of posts. What are you washing your mouth with?

 

[St.Pauli support]

I have no idea, but if they're testing it, there must be some logic behind it. I swear I read once that coronavirus lingers in the throat so sumat to do with that maybe?

Edit - i think its more of a preventative spread thing than any hope for someone who has it.

Mid April German TV said mouthwash very probably won't help.

While bacteria remain outside the mucosal body cells,
viruses are binding on the body cells and go inside within minutes.
Tthey are being reproduced there and after some time leave the destroyed cell to go on spreading.

To have a positive mouthwash impact you would have to gargle nonstop...

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I have no idea, but if they're testing it, there must be some logic behind it. I swear I read once that coronavirus lingers in the throat so sumat to do with that maybe?

Edit - i think its more of a preventative spread thing than any hope for someone who has it.

The alcohol (or similar) in mouthwash would damage the virus, on a similar principle to how ti does bacteria for bad breath.

I assume the idea is that it deactivates some virus that's in the mouth or gargleable area. Not going to get all, but might get some.

(I really think gargleable should be a real word)

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Mid April German TV said mouthwash very probably won't help.

While bacteria remain outside the mucosal body cells,
viruses are binding on the body cells and go inside within minutes.
Tthey are being reproduced there and after some time leave the destroyed cell to go on spreading.

To have a positive mouthwash impact you would have to gargle nonstop...

Thanks - sounds reasonable. It would at best do something for a short period only

 

[St.Pauli support]

Unfortunate juxtaposition of posts. What are you washing your mouth with?

I think you should give Trump a hint about this fantastic, actually great.. and fantastic new cure
and he will straight hand you the Noble Prize...

 

[SWP's back]

Aren't you barking up the wrong tree?

There's a simple reason to hire badly educated workers from poor countries
instead of academics from Switzerland for those jobs...

Because they’re cheaper.

 

[Super David Silva 21]

Why??

 

[SilverFox2]

A few bars opened on Monday here in Jerez, and they were very busy. Tuesday and yesterday less so as the novelty wore off. I'd say 90% of bars remain closed and a couple have been closed by the police.

We've been told that in Andalusia only 1.5 % of the population have been infected which means we need to tread carefully as this could flare up.

I live in Almeria and seemed to have been isolated from the infections with full lockdown, until the 1st relaxation, we will see what this bar relaxation brings in a week or so.

 

[Blue Maverick]

German study finds markers in normal urine samples to early warn before CV cases become severe:

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(20)31041-2.pdf

That’s just taking the piss

 

[BlueAnorak]

The number of deaths are less than 500 in South Korea.

I'm struggling to understand why we didn't follow the country who had so much experience of dealing with a similar situation. The programme doesn't show Boris Johnson in a good light, the usual jokes and the impression that he didn't have a grasp of the seriousness of the epidemic.

Boy, have things moved on since then.

You and me both.
Along with Taiwan, they have had plenty of experience from Bird flu, SARS, MERS and they had processes and systems ready to go.
It simply staggers me that the west (not just us) failed to learn from their experiences.
They also built a testing industry from scratch after SARS to be able to test as they new it was key to fighting epidemics.