COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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  1. twosips

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  2. Cityfan

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    Not sure that I've seen any Medic anywhere, claim it is not a respiratory disease,that it affects other systems in it's severe form is pretty evident.
     
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    yeah I thought this one had been confirmed a while back, starts in lungs and moves on from there causing heart issues and then into multi organ failure. but then the fact it starts in lungs I guess dictates its respiratory?

    pretty sure there was a Dr Campell video about how they are detecting that its hitting the heart. some blood tests so show a protein given off when the heart is damaged.
     

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    Agree with everything you have said but it has obviously been demonstrated that the virus is very poorly understood.

    Just yesterday a leading doctor in Milan mentioned that the viral loads they were seeing in some positive cases have lowered and supposedly the virus is dead in Italy. Either we are becoming immune or the virus is weakening (impossible) or we have no idea what is going on (very likely). We don't even understand how our own immune systems work anyway.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUSKBN2370OQ

    The most interesting thing moving forwards is whether countries that were hit hard will see 2nd waves following relieving lockdowns. If they don't then it must only show that maybe a very large number of people have been infected (though impossible to prove) and there is some community immunity.

    We also don't know the relationship between other coronaviruses, immunity and the mortality rate. The Asian countries have been mostly spared in terms of mortality yet they have suffered other outbreaks in recent years (eg SARS) whereas we didn't....

    Singapore has had 35,000 confirmed infections but only 23 deaths.... That's a mortality rate of 0.06%....... Why is it 0.06% in Singapore but almost 14% here when going off confirmed cases only for both?

    The only reason I can think for these numbers is reporting nuances or the number of infections is MASSIVE and the real mortality rate here is actually similar to Singapore. Going off our current number of deaths and to get a mortality rate of 0.06%... The whole population of the UK would have to be infected.... That's unlikely so god only knows what's going on.
     
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    Perhaps the virus has mutated in some areas into a less potent, but more survivable strain. Or perhaps because we've all been in lockdown it's only mostly infecting younger, healthier people so it's having less effect. That's why the worry for me is releasing the shielded population who are suddenly exposed and the virus gets another shot at the vulnerable part of our population who we've thoroughly isolated for the past 3 months.
     
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    Or maybe its the fact that 90% of cases in Singapore are young low wage migrants living in "mega dormitories" and the elderly took the advice early and shielded quickly.

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/heal...irus-why-so-few-deaths-among-singapores-14000
     
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    Its a medium article, probably trying to open an app and failing?
     
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    Whichever figure you look at (deaths, total infections etc), every single EU and Western country has been disproportionally affected globally.

    Thailand for example has a population of 70 million and an average age that makes it similar to here. Bangkok is one of the most populous cities in Asia, very similar to London yet Thailand as a whole has only seen 3000 cases with 57 deaths....

    They imposed their full lockdown in April, 2 weeks after we did, yet the virus was first detected in Thailand in January, just like here.......

    So why does the virus not spread like wildfire in Bangkok and Thailand but it does in London and elsewhere in the UK?
     
  10. denislawsbackheel

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    Eh?
    It won’t open on my windoze lap top either.
     

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