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They are a mixtures of nurses, doctors, backed up by final year medical students including those doing dentistry and those from other disciplines. I know this because I have relatives who have been called up from other areas of the NHS for Covid duty in Manchester.
I know if needed there are ways to staff the nightingales, but as a saftey net in the event things have gone wrong and hospitals are full. My post was saying using the nightingales shouldn’t be a general policy and would be a sign things have already gone wrong.
 
Yes they do and have posted that, where is a student most likely to pass it on to somebody that requires hospital treatment?
I don’t stalk students so moving on let’s hope and it’s early that the student problem was the reason for a lot of the spikes. Might make a few look silly though if that’s the case. But I’m sure any good news is welcomed by all on here
 
I know if needed there are ways to staff the nightingales, but as a saftey net in the event things have gone wrong and hospitals are full. My post was saying using the nightingales shouldn’t be a general policy and would be a sign things have already gone wrong.
My point was to not use them as a last resort but a first resort using the army, volunteers etc and keep those extremely ill with Covid out of normal hospitals which could then have carried on as much as normal treating the usual cases and people not having to spend 9 hours in A&E.

Also my friend (nurse) who has the plot next to me on the allotment says though they’re testing admissions for temperatures etc they’ve stopped looking for MRSA now.
 
GM scoreboardL

Manchester was of course top but to half of even yesterday and lowest in 8 days.

But Liverpool again was worst in UK with 332 cases (a big fall here too). Birmingham had 182 (also big drop) and Bradford 133 (another big drop). Leicester on the other hand had its worse day in a while at 101 cases but not enough to catch Oldham as worst pop score.


Manchester 234 - down from 462. Total cases 11853 Pop score up 42 to 2144.

Wigan 144 - down from 233. Total cases 4877. Pop score up 44 to 1484.

Salford 88 - down from 155. Total cases 4335. Pop score up 30 to 1675.

Stockport 86 - down fron 148. Total cases 3769. Pop score up 29 to 1284.

Oldham 85 - down from 166. Total cases 5326. Pop score up 36 to 2246.

Trafford 72 - down from 161. Total cases 3361. Pop score up 30 and into the 1400 club at 1416.

Bolton 69 - down from 153. Really seeming to get under control.Total cases 5958. Pop score up just 24 to 2072.

Bury 63 - down from 114. Total cases 3515. Pop score up 33 to 1840.

Tameide 62 - down from 96. Total cases 3878. Pop score up 27 to enter 1700 club at 1712.

Rochdale 38 - down fron 167 - a stunning drop to lowest number in GM in ages. Very odd. Pop score up 19 and almost cruelly given such a spectacular number that still took it into the 2000 club at 2013. Meaning 4 of the 10 boroughs are where only Leicester was a few weeks ago.
 
well, not that i necessarily agree with the Barrington letter, but the content is still made by qualified people, whatever you may think of their leanings, but the declaration itself is an open letter you can sign online. In the spirit of fairness, this can be hijacked by those who want to discredit it.
Listen to the experts, just not these experts.
 
The GM scoreboard is interesting too. Huge drops. Though as True Blue says maybe the student problem is controlled and that has had a big impact as the biggest fall is in Manchester.

Odd to see Stockport worse than Oldham and Bolton mind you. Though relative as all are well down. But there are many numbers better than at any time since 7/10 days ago. When we know the data was too low. Hence the niggling doubts.

Hopefully it is indeed the student scenario not a glitch.

Anyhow total in GM today first sub 1000 in a week at 941.

So yesterday was 1845 out of 4448 NW (41.5%) today it is 941 out of 2471 which is 38.1% - first under 40% in a while and actually back to where GM was as a proportion of the NW before the data mess ups started.

As a percentge of the UK cases total the GM % has been shrinking fast.

Over the last few days as a % of the UK number GM has fallen from 13.0% to 6.8% today.

Andy Burnham should wave those falling numbers in front of Boris.
Are they actually really falling numbers, or is the lower % just indicative of cases going up elsewhere?
 
Are they actually really falling numbers, or is the lower % just indicative of cases going up elsewhere?

Both are factors. But the % falling v somewhere else means they are going up related to what is happening in GM.

You see the actual numbers as I post them here daily so you can tell if they are going up or down,

The ITV national news just came from Stockport market (Go Elise!) They were saying the numbers of students testing positive are falling. So that may well be what we are seeing. That was driving GM (certainly Manchester and Salford) up and is now heading downward.
 
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