COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Nellies left peg]

Coronavirus will be around for "evermore" and is unlikely to be eradicated, a scientist advising the government on the pandemic has said.

Professor John Edmunds, a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), also said the UK can expect tens of thousands of deaths from the second wave of coronavirus in what is a "bleak" situation.

Coronavirus: COVID-19 will exist 'for evermore' and second wave could kill tens of thousands - SAGE scientist

Professor John Edmunds, who is advising the government on the pandemic, added a vaccine would help to improve the situation.

news.sky.com

He's fucking scaremongering. How the fuck does he come up with all that Kaz? He added "unless we take action". His expertise is in stating the bleeding obvious

 

[FantasyIreland]

Not shutting them

Can Greater Manchester gyms stay open in Tier 3?

Boris Johnson did not say gyms would close as he made the announcement in Downing Street

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

I know,but thanks for clarification.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Human challenge trials have started

You have to be 20-25 , white and in good health

You get a trial vaccine then you are given covid and see what happens

You get 4 grand for being a volunteer

racists.

 

[kaz7]

Not according to Nature.

Dozens to be deliberately infected with coronavirus in UK ‘human challenge’ trials

Proponents of the trials say they can be run safely and help to identify effective vaccines, but others have questioned their value.

www.nature.com

They say the first part of the trial is to determine the dose necessary to induce infection. Those volunteers will not be vaccinated at all.

It's unclear whether later arms will include placebo, so unvaccinated subjects, once the infectious dose has been determined.

I am going on what was on sky news ear!ier , are they the same or different trials ?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Well,he's just reopened them in Liverpool,and they were never shut in Lancs.....so to shut them in Manchester would make no sense.

And your point is...?

 

[kaz7]

He's fucking scaremongering. How the fuck does he come up with all that Kaz?

I dont think anyone on sage is scaremongering , they see number and studies that we dont see , they also told boris nearly a month ago a circuit breaker was what he needed to do , they can see the consequences of not doing that

 

[roubaixtuesday]

He's fucking scaremongering. How the fuck does he come up with all that

Which bit do you disagree with?

We're currently north of 100 deaths a day, rates are doubling every 10 days and nobody believes tier three restrictions will stop this. Just seven weeks at 200 deaths per day is 10,000. So 10s of thousands of deaths seems almost certain.

Is there another part you take issue with?

 

[Bluesince1979]

So, what's your point, are you going to force them, I see it too in my coffee shop, especially elderly people. I'm not sure what you suggest doing about it, one more reason why saying protect the vulnerable, or the vunlnerable protect themselves as a policy can't work.Sometimes we have to go out of our way to protect vulnerable people for them.

No i wouldnt lock them up. They need to protect themselves, not put themselves in the firing line

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I am going on what was on sky news ear!ier , are they the same or different trials ?

Same trial. I'd guess Sky probably simplified it. It's not wrong, just an incomplete description.

 

[FantasyIreland]

And your point is...?