COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kaz7]

Same trial. I'd guess Sky probably simplified it. It's not wrong, just an incomplete description.

Thanks , i should have listened better , really interesting though

 

[mosssideblue]

Cant compare either

No answer is there but my point remains... those that NEED to shield ... arent

A very good start would be compliance by the whole, not the few, because until that obstacle is addressed, all these measures will not have their intended outcomes.

 

[blueparrot]

No i wouldnt lock them up. They need to protect themselves, not put themselves in the firing line

So you keep saying, yet are unable to explain how, given all the complicated circumstances I gave a small sample of, plus those that for whatevever reason lack the understanding to do it.

 

[Healdplace]

There are currently 73 people in ICU in Scotland with Covid. The last time the figure was this high was May 10th (75 people).

800 other people in hospital (not ICU) in Scotland. Highest figure since May 26, although back then there was a different way of calculating the figure so in that respect today's figure might be quite a bit of an underestimate. I've no idea how high the figure would be under the old recording system.

Those dates are pretty similar to the ones I post each evening for the North West. We seem to be running at a similar backtracking schedule from July through June into May and edging towards the April peak of the first wave. Which I hope we never get near to catching.

Much of the rest of England is still having dates in June for their comparators.

Deaths though are still in June. But are creeping into May now. Especially for the NW.

This is a very good way to see the scale of the problem we have which is why I use it in the England death repirts each afternoon. We know the first wave fell slowly from its peak around 9 April so the further away we are from that the better and the closer we get to that date the bigger the problem in terms of hospital data.

 

[Healdplace]

The 94 England hospital deaths were aged between 49 and 97 and all but one (aged 71) had known underlying health coditions.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Which bit do you disagree with?

We're currently north of 100 deaths a day, rates are doubling every 10 days and nobody believes tier three restrictions will stop this. Just seven weeks at 200 deaths per day is 10,000. So 10s of thousands of deaths seems almost certain.

Is there another part you take issue with?

We will have to wait and see. The public must get it in their heads to protect themselves and others and if they do the scenario won't be as bad. But even on here people are going down like flies. Oakie and Worsleys daughter just a couple. The sage blokes interview he added if we do nothing which is not an option

 

[blueparrot]

a few others have pointed it out. but its not scaremongering.

1) the virus not being eradicated. as an example we have had a Measles vaccine since the 1950's and we still get Measles outbreaks. Its incredibly hard to clear a virus from the face of the earth. so hard infact we have only officially done it with 2 viruses smallpox and rinderpest, and rinderpest is cattle only.

2) numbers? 3 months over winter of 120 deaths a day, which is where we are at right now is over 10k deaths.

why is it when people get factual they are classed as scaremongers. astounds me.

When you read the whole article, those things you say as well as caveats about doing nothing and the optimistic vaccine hopes are all in there, the quotes Karen picked out out of context could be seen as scaremongering though.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Other Scottish data today:

873 now in hospital (up 49 in day) and 73 ICU/ventilator (+4).

2 Weeks ago to last week to today data:

Deaths 1 v 15 v 28

Cases 1054 v 1429 v 1739

% positive 15 v 16.4 v 19.8

In hospital 319 v 570 v 873

Ventilator ICU 28 v 49 v 73

The Scottish lockdown is going really well then
(NOT)

 

[kaz7]

France's government is considering extending its state of emergency until 16 February next year.

Government spokesperson Gabriel Attal also said several more regions of the country will enter red-alert status, meaning they will see curfews imposed.the proposed new end date to the health state of emergency means 9pm to 6am curfews already in place in France's biggest cities could be extended.

Coronavirus: France considers extending COVID state of emergency until mid-February

As the country's case total nears one million, several more regions will see curfews imposed, officials say.

news.sky.com

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:

5 deaths (v 4 last wk) (v 1 wk before)

1039 cases (V 1217 last wk v 828 wk before)

Total 7 days Cases 6791 v 6693 last wk v 4417 wk before)

289 in hospital (up 8) v 164 last wk v 58 wk before

32 ventilator v 17 last wk