COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Healdplace]

The three nations cases today were over 1000 each and total 3888 which is a new high.

Last week the total was 2841 - so quite a jump in seven days after a few days where it seemed to be levelling off.

Week before it was 2588 so the jump this week is more obvious.

 

[True_Blue69]

Seven day running cases total for N Ireland is 6753 last week it was 6394 and week before 4674.

Early days but does this suggest the circuit breaker is starting to put on the brakes? It had gone up to over 7000 before it came in.

N Ireland did 31,000 tests today to find those 1042 cases. That is triple what they were doing a few weeks ago.

Of those in the 6753 - 957 are aged 0 - 19, 2650 aged 20 - 39, 2016 aged 40 - 59, 908 aged 60 - 79 and 222 are 80 +

Not sure the 'circuit breaker' can be given as the reason for these figures. It's not even been in for a week and we all know there is a lag on any measures being put in place showing in the figures. If anything it probably shows they have jumped in too early as cases were naturally levelling off.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Yes I’m afraid Covid resulted in 2 million operations been cancelled in one quarter alone so 32k doesn’t touch the sides unless you are personally affected

More than 2m operations cancelled as NHS fights Covid-19

Backlog of procedures in England could cost NHS £3bn to work through after crisis

www.theguardian.com

I know, but this winter is, up to today at least, not any different from most other winters and that is the only point I am trying to make.

 

[Cityfan]

I know, but this winter is, up to today at least, not any different from most other winters and that is the only point I am trying to make.

In terms of what has to happen in hospitals it is massively different. Flu kills othing like the same number of people the precautions that one has to take within a hospital are hugely different.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Sorry but this isn't right. normally it takes around 5-10 years to create and test a vaccine. Phase 3 alone is usually 2-4 years. this absolutely has been rushed.

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So what are you suggesting, We take our time and sit back and wait ? Not sure we can afford to do that myself.

I also read several articles back in the spring that one or two companies had picked up the vaccine developments that were made a few years ago with SARs and MERs that were dropped as those virusus disappeared And as they were similar this helped them speed up the development? Not sure how true that is?

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Age ranges of infections in Scotland today

221 people aged 65+
Including 35 aged 85+

126 children aged under 15
Including 44 aged under 5

271 aged 15-24

1082 aged 25-64


Deaths

4 aged 85+
6 aged 75-84
5 aged 65-74
1 aged 45-64
1 aged 25-44

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I understand that you well appreciate the differences but I’m not sure that’s universally true.
Before anyone jumps in, I do know this isn’t ‘flu’ but we did have 27000+ deaths from flu and pneumonia in 2014/15 which equates to 200 a day, everyday. ICU’s were full and elective surgery was cancelled, because that’s what happens and it happens most years, to be honest.
I don’t seek to underplay COVID at all, but I do think we are now possibly entering the ‘cure being worse than the disease’ phase when we look at the demographics of those affected. The reality is that, if you’re over 80 in a ‘normal’ year, there is a 1 in 6 chance that you will not see out the following 12 months and those odds shrink every year.

The light was yellow Sir, You have got to be careful what you post sir! one or two on here will be down on you like a ton of bricks and tell you that only 200 died of flu and the rest were pneumonia! Trust me it happens! ;-)

 

[Healdplace]

Here is the full scary rise in England hospital deaths over the past 4 weeks up to 17 October - last week for which we have a five day total by when most deaths tend to be added.

As usual you see the 7 day total deaths at 5 days for that week with average per day in brackets - followed by the same numbers AFTER deaths have been added on since that 5 day spell ended and up to today.

The rise over the past 10 days is clearly seen to have taken off

WK 20 - 26 Sep 160 deaths (Avg per day 22.8) Adds ons inc 175 (Avg per day 25)

WK 27 - 03 Oct 253 deaths (Avg per day 36.2) Add ons inc 272 (Avg per day 38.8)

WK 04 - 10 Oct 310 deaths (Avg per day 44.3) Add ons inc 337 (Avg per day 48.2)

WK 11 - 17 Oct 544 deaths (Avg per day 77.8) Add ons 567 (Avg per day 81).

Tripled across that period. If this is not slowed you can work out where we will be in 4 weeks time.

 

[kaz7]

I know, but this winter is, up to today at least, not any different from most other winters and that is the only point I am trying to make.

We are still on british summertime , this is not winter yet

 

[grunge]

So what are you suggesting, We take our time and sit back and wait ? Not sure we can afford to do that myself.

I also read several articles back in the spring that one or two companies had picked up the vaccine developments that were made a few years ago with SARs and MERs that were dropped as those virusus disappeared And as they were similar this helped them speed up the development? Not sure how true that is?

Im not specifically suggesting anything other than this Vaccine is being rushed through. its one of those judgment calls really. I will be taking it but may wait a few months before I do.