COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[City_Sean]

England hospital data shows another big leap in the data to really scary recent totals. Way up on even last week.

These are without doubt the most worrying numbers since last April. They suggest we are heading into big trouble.



21 Oct adds 21 = 21 after one day. Highest deaths on past 24 hours since 3 June.

20 Oct adds 78 = 96 after two days, The last time 78 was added on day two was 21 May. The last time we had 96 deaths by day two was 26 May.

19 Oct adds 31 = 89 after three days. The last time the three day total was that high was 2 June.

18 Oct adds 5 = 72 after four days. Last time the four day total was this high 5 June.

17 Oct adds 11 = 117 after five days . This is more than double every other other five day total for months aside from the pst few days but it over 40 higher than even all but the preceding day and 31 higher than that total. The last time the five day total was this high was 26 May.

Others : - 16 Oct adds 3 = 89, 15 Oct adds 1 = 81, 12 Oct adds 1 = 68, 3 Sep adds 1 = 4 (That fact of going from 3 to 4 after 6/7 weeks tells you how far and fast the England hospital Covid death numbers have risen in the weeks sibce 3 Seo).

The clowns in charge are so incompetent and wedded to their tier idea. But the reality is a circuit break needs to happen before things get very fucking bad.

People need to stop burying their head in the sand too. This isn't going away.

 

[kaz7]

If only dido could see the second wave coming , the wave all the experts said would come and sending students back would cause a huge rise in infections

If only ...

 

[kaz7]

wouldn't surprise me though. Rushing things through to have something even if it isn't done properly and will cripple people, more money in the long-run though.

Nonsense

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Really? 23,503 operations cancelled for non-clinical reasons, from October to December 2019, about 20% more than from April to June.
To be fair to the DHSC they did advise the hospitals to ”book fewer operations“ so the cancellations would be smaller in 17/18 but I’m not sure that’s a realistic strategy.

Yes I’m afraid Covid resulted in 2 million operations been cancelled in one quarter alone so 32k doesn’t touch the sides unless you are personally affected

More than 2m operations cancelled as NHS fights Covid-19

Backlog of procedures in England could cost NHS £3bn to work through after crisis

www.theguardian.com

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data: Sadly also bad.

5 deaths v 4 last wk v 1 wk before

1042 cases v 763 last wk v 923 wk before Cases here do seem to have levelled off but they are now just into a circuit breaker remember.

291 in hospital v 201 last wk v 120 wk before

23 on ventilators v 17 last wk v 11 wk before

 

[kaz7]

If you look at the biggest week on week decreases not sure South Yorkshire needed tier 3 and Newcastle and the NE certainly don’t, so I’d imagine they’ll be in it by Monday. Also, all those Liverpool decreases have nothing whatsoever to do with tier 3, as they’re reducing before any effect of that. I would think that any sustained decreases will not be spun like that though, as this government would never play politics with the pandemic.....

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Why are you ignoring hospital numbers and those in intensive care ? They are absolute where as testing is all over the shop

 

[Healdplace]

Seven day running cases total for N Ireland is 6753 last week it was 6394 and week before 4674.

Early days but does this suggest the circuit breaker is starting to put on the brakes? It had gone up to over 7000 before it came in.

N Ireland did 31,000 tests today to find those 1042 cases. That is triple what they were doing a few weeks ago.

Of those in the 6753 - 957 are aged 0 - 19, 2650 aged 20 - 39, 2016 aged 40 - 59, 908 aged 60 - 79 and 222 are 80 +

 

[Healdplace]

So the UK hospital deaths today are the highest yet since the first wave at 181. It was 108 last Thursday. And 51 two weeks ago today. So more than triple in that fortnight.

There were 141 yesterday.

This really is starting to look like a rapid increase in recent days.

 

[kaz7]

Sorry but this isn't right. normally it takes around 5-10 years to create and test a vaccine. Phase 3 alone is usually 2-4 years. this absolutely has been rushed.

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Every scientist in the world worked on getting the genetic code and it was identified almost straight away , everyone is working on vaccines , there is never this will or effort to get a vaccine ususally , it is being conducted properly and perfectly safely

The drug companies have produced vaccines for if we get one so it isready to. go ,this is at great cost to them if the vaccine is not passed safe, the safety and efficacy is being properly tested to the usual standard , there is no conspiracy , russia and china are skipping safety trials , the rest of us are not

 

[kaz7]

positive feedback loop, we have a ton of vaccines we've spent money on so we need them to work. Simple psychology and therefore a willingness to justify or overlook especially long-term health impacts that can't be monitored if the vaccine is already in circulation before the raw data is in.

long term customer base, sell all their other products that are needed to treat damaged vaccine users because the long-term effects on the body aren't known.

Bollocks