COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Statistics are statistics are statistics.
PHE are not publishing location commonality data between cases.
Without it SAGE theories cannot be validated.
Indeed after their fuck up on face masks in March their theories DO NEED to be tested.

but you have no relevant qualifications to question the way sage do anything.

 

[BlueAnorak]

but you have no relevant qualifications to question the way sage do anything.

I fucking do.

 

[mosssideblue]

So you dont have an issue with mental health problems rising, suicide rates going up. and other health services being put on the back burner as long as nearly all resources are put into covid. Because that is exactly what is happening.

Where did I say that

 

[inchy14]

It will reduce it, for sure, where observed, but you're still in a room with random others, hitting your v02 max and sweating buckets everywhere (and occassionally letting a bit of drool out). That room may only have moderate fresh-ventilation and those big fans are dispersing that shit like crazy. People will have to bite down on this one. Outdoor fitness clubs are a thing across the country.

Again have you seen how many contact it in gyms compared to other places? It’s minuscule

 

[Deleted member 77198]

but you have no relevant qualifications to question the way sage do anything.

With that logic nor does anyone moaning about the government, all those saying Boris has done a terrible job. Nor does anyone questioning judges when murderers get tiny sentences. Nor does anyone questioning any football managers up and down the country when their teams don’t win...

In reality we all have the ability to digest information and decide whether we agree with it or not. If we don’t we question it. A lot of people don’t have to be qualified in something to gain knowledge and work out what’s right and not.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I fucking do.

No you don't. You said you have a PHD in computer science and statistics. That is in no way relevant to how the epidemiologists and virologists come to their conclusions. You may have some insight into the publishing of their statistics, i don't know. They or the government may disagree with you. But you have no insight whatsoever into how they come to the conclusions they do. None.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Especially for those who, understandably, fear the economic damage from lockdown.

Economic recovery depends on suppressing the virus.

(Author is a Prof of economics)

 

[kaz7]

Where did I say that

You cant care about both sides , you can only support one side , apparantly

This is all about risk v reward , this is what everyone in life does whether they realise it or not , more so for every health authority and dr in it . In the first wave they were having to decide on treatments that way , everyone sticking to the rules so not overwhelming the nhs will help them to not have to , it might be your mum or dad next

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Again have you seen how many contact it in gyms compared to other places? It’s minuscule

we really need to start have this sort of data widely published and have certain settings have regulated access instead of just shutting everything all the time, at least schools and unis have nowhere to hide the next few weeks, but I guess the government are just trying to get them to an early, maybe extended Christmas holiday so they can go back to tier 3 with everything else.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths in detail: Weekend data can be a factor warning as usual.

31 Oct adds 31 = 31 after 1 day.

30 Oct adds 76 = 116 after 2 days.

29 Oct adds 17 = 163 after 3 days. Highest on 3 days since 7 May. Deadliest day in hospital allocated to one date even after add ons across the months since 16 May.

28 Oct adds 5 = 156 after 4 days, Highest 4 day total since 12 May.

27 Oct adds 5 = 152 after 5 days. (Last 3 five day totals all over 150 - last 9 five day totals all over 100)

Others added 26 Oct adds 1 = 154, 20 Oct adds 1 = 129, 18 Oct adds 1 = 87