COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[abu13]

You were stupid to trust them

On covid , if people had stuck to what the worlds experts were saying about a winter second wave instead of believing the now quiet oncologist then you would be prepared for what is happening now

Yep and i still struggle with the fact the Government waited so long for the initial lockdown to be announced, we should have been locking down in early March rather than towards the end.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Scotland 3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today:

Deaths 31 v 56 v 32 v 37 today

Cases 1072 v 1357 v 1018 v 969 today - not a huge fall but going down as the 4 % positive suggests. It was 4.7 yesterday and 6.8% two days ago.

Patients 1237 v 1228 v 1234 v 1099 today - very clear flattening and fall in past week. Exactly what happened in the NW the past two weeks too. With Scotland and NW England in different regimes also.

Ventilated 98 v 96 v 88 v 80 today - is a steady and hopeful downward path.

Thanks as always HP, and I'm not trying to create a downer on those stats because at the end of the day it's still dropping but the % positive is always at it's lowest on Thursday's and Friday's. Last 3 Friday's have been 5.5%, 5.7%, 4.8% and today's 4%, with the corresponding Saturday's then all showing rises until peak % positive rates on Monday's and Tuesdays. I don't know why that is, and I hope you don't mind me pointing it out...just suggesting that today's 4% might not mean too much compared with a Wednesday figure for example of 6.8%. If that makes any sense!

 

[wolfie1988]

You were stupid to trust them

On covid , if people had stuck to what the worlds experts were saying about a winter second wave instead of believing the now quiet oncologist then you would be prepared for what is happening now

People believe what they want to believe and at times, what their livelihoods need them to believe.

 

[kippax4ever]

of not off

....

 

[BLUEMATT23]

You were stupid to trust them

On covid , if people had stuck to what the worlds experts were saying about a winter second wave instead of believing the now quiet oncologist then you would be prepared for what is happening now

They haven't got a clue Karen

 

[roubaixtuesday]

From the FT:

The UK has managed an almost unique double, to suffer both nearly the highest death rate in the world *and* the worst economic damage.

I don't think it's really understood just how catastrophic our response has been.

 

[peter.evans]

From the FT:

The UK has managed an almost unique double, to suffer both nearly the highest death rate in the world *and* the worst economic damage.

I don't think it's really understood just how catastrophic our response has been.

View attachment 5901

You can say that again ! Mind you some on here are more concerned about looks and gender than competence of the government !

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Taken from the BBC:

What happened to cases in Liverpool and Manchester?​

Announcing which areas in England would enter which tiers, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said: "Unfortunately, we did see the impact on the number of cases going up and continuing to go up in those areas where local leaders were not working alongside us."
He said this was in “sharp contrast” to what happened in Liverpool.
Mr Hancock did not name names but one of the local leaders the government did not see eye-to-eye with was Andy Burnham – mayor of Greater Manchester.
So, what happened to coronavirus cases in these two areas?
Liverpool City Region became the first area to enter tier three restrictions (under the old system) on 14 October. In the week to 14 October, it had 467.8 cases per 100,000 people.
That number has since fallen to 180 cases per 100,000 - as of the week to 21 November - across Merseyside.
Greater Manchester entered tier three restrictions on 23 October (after a stand-off between Mr Burnham and the government).
In the week to 23 October, there were 519.7 cases per 100,000 in Greater Manchester. A week earlier, when negotiations began, there were 404.8 cases per 100,000.In response to the health secretary’s remarks, Mr Burnham told LBC: “Myself and the 10 leaders of Greater Manchester spent the weekend by the phone, waiting for the government to get back to us in the middle of that and they never did.”
He said the government should stop “playing the divide and rule game” by comparing Liverpool and Manchester.
The case rate for Greater Manchester was 274 per 100,000 - as of the week to 21 November.
Merseyside, where the case rate is below the national average, will be in tier two from 2 December, while Greater Manchester, where the case rate is above the national average, will be in tier three.

Wasn’t Liverpool’s case rate already falling (or at least plateauing) by the time they went into Tier 3?

 

[BLUEMATT23]

I live in Trafford and that's in tier 3
Cheshire's cases are higher yet they are in tier 2.
Am I missing something?

 

[worsleyweb]

They haven't got a clue Karen

if only we had you in charge. Shown your intellect throughout this.