COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[mosssideblue]

Rita Ora apologises for getting caught?

Exactly. Really need to come down hard on these people

 

[domalino]

Indeed, but when was the last time you had to get a health passport out at your local cinema? It's clearly very different.

When was the last time the entire world was shut down by a virus, killing millions of people and putting the world into the biggest depression/recession in history?

We aren't living in normal times.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Exactly. This kind of stuff will convert probably loads into conspiracy theorists. We literally do not need to vaccinate the whole country. Saw a poll that said over 60% will take it anyway immediately. That's easily enough, given how much its undoubtedly spread, to read herd immunity and stop it. Don't see the point in turning millions into conspiracy theorists by blackmailing them.

When police handed out fines to those breaking lockdown rules, was that blackmailing people?

 

[twosips]

You know France, Germany and Italy have made the MMR vaccine mandatory and they haven't descended into a dystopia yet, the only side effect is less kids getting killed and maimed by measles.

If uptake rates in this country continue to drop, it will likely become mandatory here, because measles outbreaks are becoming more and more common.

And the problem is, not everyone who gets a vaccine is immune, so everyone who doesn't get a vaccine is putting other people's lives at risk.

Once again, to clarify, i'm not anti-vaccine. I also, obviously, understand how vaccines work adn the point of them. I think its fair to say that you can't compare the trust in the MMR vaccine, which has been around for decades, to the trust in these new ones. The skepticism if people are coerced into taking it will explode.

 

[domalino]

But you can go to your local restaurant though can’t you.
Threats of not being allowed in your local etc won’t help in the conspiracy theory group being swayed.

It's not about swaying stupid pricks who think a vaccine is going to track you or melt your face off.

It's about not having unvaccinated carriers of the virus giving it to all the people in a restaurant who got the vaccine but it didn't give the immune response.

 

[inchy14]

You can't compare a full stadium or even a full cinema with a restaurant.

I’m comparing being allowed to travel abroad with doing something legal in your own country.
Whats next? Can’t leave your home? Can’t go supermarket? It’s just scare mongoring and playing right into the conspiracy theorist hands.
Those who don’t want one shouldn’t have to have it, the majority of the population will do do it’ll cover it.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Once again, to clarify, i'm not anti-vaccine. I also, obviously, understand how vaccines work adn the point of them. I think its fair to say that you can't compare the trust in the MMR vaccine, which has been around for decades, to the trust in these new ones. The skepticism if people are coerced into taking it will explode.

Spot on,forcing people to take a vaccine that cannot be fully safety guaranteed is wrong.

 

[domalino]

Spot on,forcing people to take a vaccine that cannot be fully safety guaranteed is wrong.

Literally no one is forcing anyone.

Saying you can't come in my restaurant if you haven't been vaccinated is not forcing you to get a vaccine.

 

[twosips]

Literally no one is forcing anyone.

Saying you can't come in my restaurant if you haven't been vaccinated is not forcing you to get a vaccine.

It's coercion. Different tactic, same end result.

 

[ganganvince]

Literally no one is forcing anyone.

But business owners have a legal responsibility to protect staff and customers by allowing non vaccinated people in could leave them open to a law suit.