COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[roubaixtuesday]

Care to share your source for that please? Struggle when searching for stats like this.

Sure

Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics

Provisional counts of the number of deaths registered in England and Wales, including deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, by age, sex and region.

www.ons.gov.uk

 

[roubaixtuesday]

i believe live its been widely reported this may be the case. The bbc interviewed a woman on friday who had missed her cancer treatment for mths. i know of someone who wasnt getting the treatment they should be. Throw in no face to face GP appointments and it isnt that hard to work out that the priority given to covid has resulted in some others sadly losing out and passing away before they would have.

As far as I know there's no hard data to support this claim - yet.

Interested to see where this goes - I completely agree it's a likely. I'd guess it might become visible later as things like cancer diagnoses and screening misses impact.

Another good reason to suppress the virus.

 

[lancs blue]

What were Labour expected to do?

What does sitting on their hands doing nothing achieve? If they believe the country needs restrictions of some sort then vote for restrictions if the only alternative is none at all. If they feel strongly opposed to the restrictions then vote against. Meanwhile the government sets out restrictions but as soon as anyone moans about them Johnson shits himself and starts back-tracking.

 

[Chappie]

What were Labour expected to do?

Show some balls for once,they are as spineless as the government.
They could have opposed the tier system or God forbid suggested some other alternative.
As Lancs Blue suggests the most abject bunch of politicians the country have assembled in my lifetime if not ever.

 

[The Northern Baptist]

Labour’s position is that the tier restrictions don’t go far enough.

They vote against and we get nothing, no restrictions at all. That would be an odd thing to do wouldn’t it considering they don’t think tier restrictions go far enough? It would humiliate the PM yes, but god forbid they get accused of playing politics. The Tory rebellion was never going to be big enough on its own, it needed Labour voting against as well.

They vote for the tier restrictions and they then can’t criticise them. Why would they do that?

Abstaining prevented no restrictions and a free for all coming into place, but allows them a more sound base to criticise the government’s tier restrictions.

 

[Armaan]

 

[BlueHammer85]

Ease off in April, the summer will reduce the deaths, then we'll be having the same conversation here next december, if this is going to be as depressingly predictable as I imagine.

Vaccine being rolled out in a couple weeks ?

 

[hammocity]

Tameside is the charnel house capital of the UK.

Tameside records highest proportion of Covid deaths in UK

Public health official puts high figure down to early testing but local MP questions hospital infection controls

www.theguardian.com

Terribly, terribly sad.

As a matter of fact I can tell you there were patients with Covid in non Covid wards in Tameside Hospitals in September. I picked my pal up from his shift early in that month and he was fuming, the cases had multiplied rapidly and patients were being placed in any available bed, he'd had Covid himself in March, he got mild symptoms but his wife became very ill but fortunately got better. His protection then as now was a standard issue mask, nothing medically specialised, just bog standard issue. He worked in Patient transfer and now empties the medical bins, he's transported quite a lot of Covid patients and seen some of them die quite quickly. There is a lot of anxiety amongst his colleagues, not a great situation to be in.

 

[hammocity]

Vaccine being rolled out in a couple weeks ?

He must have missed that!

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Labour’s position is that the tier restrictions don’t go far enough.

They vote against and we get nothing, no restrictions at all. That would be an odd thing to do wouldn’t it considering they don’t think tier restrictions go far enough? It would humiliate the PM yes, but god forbid they get accused of playing politics. The Tory rebellion was never going to be big enough on its own, it needed Labour voting against as well.

They vote for the tier restrictions and they then can’t criticise them. Why would they do that?

Abstaining prevented no restrictions and a free for all coming into place, but allows them a more sound base to criticise the government’s tier restrictions.

This is exactly the reason there should be an all party committee looking & deciding things rather than BJ and a couple of his mates.