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ganganvince said:
The Excel centre in London is being donated for use free of charge by the Abu Dhabi Royal family this deal is still in place the only things removed into safe storage are the beds and equipment which if required can go back. The hospital remains under the control of St Barts. It hasn't gone anywhere.
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Thats not the case with all of them though, and they have all been mothballed as i understand. So regardless the national plan will be different, but that's great they have given the use of the building, its also good they can reopen at short notice, but if they haven't got enough staff to run the hospitals, and they haven't by a very long way at the moment. At the start of this pandemic the NHS was understaffed by over 100,000 people. now if you add that some NHS staff will have tested positive, or have family at home and need to isolate, it paints a picture of how acute the current shortage is and the staff are best placed in the actual hospitals than in a recovery setting as they have been used.
 
Len Rum said:
Richard Tice (not my favourite person) has put out a tweet praised by Gaz Neville would you believe saying he ( Tice) has made enquiries and has established that the much aclaimed and highly publicised London Nightingale hospital has in fact GONE.
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It closed in effect in May, so hardly news, presumably the equipment that was installed will have been transferred into "normal" hospitals to increase their capacity.
 
Regional scoreboard highlights

Southern areas all up - one to new record others to second worst ever

North West the highest region outside the South again and up - though only by 15. Yorkshire and North East up by more than NW.

But huge fall for West Midlands - 1446 LESS than yesterday.

S o overall much as it were - the South driving the numbers. But the north up a bit week to week.
 
sniff said:
No the money was spent to get it prepared, then they spent loads dragging retired Drs and Nurses back whilst rushing through the graduations of new starters. The first wave plan seemed to work..ish for a little while.

The big issue that everyone is avoiding, or being distracted from is age old and simple. For years the NHS has been stripped and run on bare minimum, so much so we usually in normal conditions have a winter crisis. Not due to the huge numbers, but due to the lack of staff.

Staff have been forced to adapt to potentially dangerous rota gaps being the norm, or bed capacity being routinely breached. Expensive private agencies are now routinely relied upon to plug unsafe staffing gaps, and NHS staff at all levels feel both undervalued in their work, and endlessly put upon by a system in a state of perpetual emergency.

So the real issue is, where the fuck are all the Drs and Nursed Boris, you shit haired Nob !!! why havent we got the staff to deal with a crisis. This could be for a number of issues BTW not just a once in a life time Pandemic. we are at the point where a Terror attack or Natural disaster would also drop us into Crisis Levels.. Yet all anyone seems to want to debate is, How many heads will you grow after the vaccine ? im not having no tracking device in me !! Demanding to know where all the PPE money was spent (not how the fuck can a developed 1st world economy run out at the first sign of trouble) or How much fish the french can catch after the 1st of Jan.. All really nice and convenient distractions from the real issue. We have a health service that isnt fit for purpose.
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40,000 new nurses?
But essentially I agree with you.
Still give the fcukers a hard time for something which they claimed great credit for which for whatever reason has ultimately failed.
 
sniff said:
Thats not the case with all of them though, and they have all been mothballed as i understand. So regardless the national plan will be different, but that's great they have given the use of the building, its also good they can reopen at short notice, but if they haven't got enough staff to run the hospitals, and they haven't by a very long way at the moment. At the start of this pandemic the NHS was understaffed by over 100,000 people. now if you add that some NHS staff will have tested positive, or have family at home and need to isolate, it paints a picture of how acute the current shortage is and the staff are best placed in the actual hospitals than in a recovery setting as they have been used.
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Staffing will be a major issue if they are needed to come on stream in a major way. I don't know the lease arrangements with the other sites although 3 of them are currently in use albeit not as originally intended. My response was to a post claiming the London one was gone.
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Regional Scoreboard:

LONDON 10, 713 - up from 9873. Only just below its highest ever.

EAST 6078 - up from 5611 - this is a new record here the one area rising steadily day by day. Now triple where it was just 10 days ago.

SOUTH EAST - 6910 - up from 5986 to almost a new record here too.

The combined numbers here are I think a record at 23, 701 of the UK total.
 
Other regions:

MIDLANDS 2156 - down from 3602. Day to day testing anomaly most likely

NORTH EAST 1137 - UP from 941.

YORKSHIRE 1969 - UP from 1850

And NORTH WEST 2812 - UP from 2797

The North West has risen now every day for 7 days starting at 1530.

Do not want to be a doomsayer but this is how the cases in the south started to go on their huge rise upward via the new strain and are now far higher than in that first week of modest increases.
 
Greater Manchester highlights:

Odd day. Down 54 to 943. So the % of NW total falls to 33% - lowest yet.

Manchester and Stockport both well down on yesterday, which is good.

But FIVE of the ten boroughs now above 100 for first time in many weeks. Though only just.

Best performer today again Bolton.

Sadly Trafford still climbing a lot from its best in GM performance a week or two ago and was over 100 for the first time in 6 or 7 weeks.

I really hope someone is investigating why.

Could be the new strain has taken root there?
 
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