COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Thanks mate - what I really don’t get is the huge discrepancy between Italian survivors and everywhere else?

Some Chinese provinces have 1000+ cases, 950 recovered and 1 death, whereas Italy have 230+ deaths in just 5000+ cases - how does this happen?

Korea has 7000 cases with 44 deaths.

Has the stronger strain been the one that’s travelled to Europe?

Are the Far East not being honest?
 
If those two there get it they’re knackered.

Anyway back on topic - has China slowed now, in cases?

I’ve been looking for specific updates for them and can’t find it.
Yep. Slowed to almost none. The restrictions on movement appear to have worked. I guess the rest of the world will follow a similar plan over the next couple of months.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 
What I also don’t understand is Myanmar haven’t any according to the data, yet I flew into Manchester from Zurich today and on both sides they had it listed as a self-isolation destination - as in quarantine yourself if you’ve been and show symptoms.
 
What I also don’t understand is Myanmar haven’t any according to the data, yet I flew into Manchester from Zurich today and on both sides they had it listed as a self-isolation destination - as in quarantine yourself if you’ve been and show symptoms.

maybe they are like Indonesia and are not actually testing?
 
What I also don’t understand is Myanmar haven’t any according to the data, yet I flew into Manchester from Zurich today and on both sides they had it listed as a self-isolation destination - as in quarantine yourself if you’ve been and show symptoms.

Myanmar will not be capable of reliable or extensive testing, so I wouldn't read into the lack of identified cases.
 
I’m not sure how helpful it is of Italy to announce they’re locking down regions before they’ve actually implemented some control. Most are just going to leave before it starts.
 
Went out panic buying tonight, but every other **** obviously did theirs this afternoon as it was pretty empty at tescos. It's all the tight arses panic buying it seems - all the own brand paracetamol had gone, but the branded stuff that costs a quid more was still in stock.
I always buy the branded stuff. Makes me feel like a player.
 
20% needing hospitalisation is a known figure based on existing cases.

3.5% is the known case fatality rate.

these figures are not opinions, they come from the WHO and other medical sources.
From Business Insider:

“South Korea has tested more than 140,000 people for the new coronavirus and confirmed more than 6,000 cases. Its fatality rate is around 0.6%.

This suggests that, as many health experts have predicted, the virus' fatality rate seems to decrease as more cases are reported.

That's because more widespread testing leads more mild cases to be included in the count.
The US, by contrast, has tested around 1,500 people. The country has 221 confirmed cases and 12 deaths, suggesting a death rate of 5%.

The US' testing capacity has been limited.

The US and South Korea announced their first cases of the coronavirus on the same day: January 20. More than six weeks later, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has tested around 1,500 people for the virus. South Korea, meanwhile, has tested about 140,000.

The nation is capable of conducting as many as 10,000 tests per day and has built drive-thru testing clinics that can detect coronavirus cases in just 10 minutes. Officials say the clinics can reduce testing time by a third.

This quick response has allowed South Korea to detect more than 6,000 coronavirus patients, around 35 of whom have died. That means the country's fatality rate - the number of deaths out of the total number of infections - is around 0.6%.

The World Health Organization estimated on Tuesday that the global fatality rate for the coronavirus is around 3.4%. Some health experts predict that this rate will decrease as the number of cases rises. South Korea offers solid evidence for that prediction so far.”
 
Both my parents are at risk from this, they are both in their 80's . Spoke to them today and they are carrying on as normal, as old folks do. I tried to convince them to not go out but they are stubborn old folk. Apart from bricking the windows and torchIng the house what can I do? They say it can't be that bad cos we would have government warnings like we had when aids came.
 
High temp,really bad cough,sore throat and breathless,no runny or stuffed up nose,it feels like flu without the cold symptoms bit,it is horrible
Hope your tests are NEGATIVE and you feel better VERY SOON!
(CAPITALIZED THE IMPORTANT BITS, JUST FOR YOU!)
 
In China, MOST people don’t run to the Dr when they get a runny nose, cough or cold/flu like symptoms, they self diagnose and get in with it.

I understand WHO is putting out THEIR REAL NUMBERS, but I don’t think their numbers have any clue of the denominator...they’re just the best numbers they have based on factual data.

And, last I checked, flu was a 0.01% fatality rate.
Yeah Flu is a serious condition but it has a fatality rate of 0.1%.

This is up 30 to 40 times worse. That’s the point. It isn’t Flu. But as you say, the death rate may drop with increased testing, we’ll have to wait and see.
 
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Bollocks! Beyond the 80%, it doesn’t mean what you say.
It absolutely does.

Back up what you’re saying. Rather than just posting “bollocks” as you’re worried about your job and want to feel better by pretending it’s not as serious as it patently is.
 
20% needing hospitalisation is a known figure based on existing cases.

3.5% is the known case fatality rate.

these figures are not opinions, they come from the WHO and other medical sources.
Exactly. I don’t know how putting his fingers in his ears and saying the figures are wrong as these known facts are “bollocks” is meant to work to be honest.
 
Some Chinese provinces have 1000+ cases, 950 recovered and 1 death, whereas Italy have 230+ deaths in just 5000+ cases - how does this happen?
Because China aren’t known to always be truthful with their stated figures (of anything).
 
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