COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Blue Hefner]

Update from America

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

How deadly something is, and how many actually die are not necessarily in a perfect relationship to other viruses/diseases. It depends on the decisions we take as a nation. COVID-19 has the potential to claim millions of lives the world over, tens of millions. But we all expect nations to take measures to mitigate that, as we’ve seen. So to keep repeating the same point of “your figure doesn’t equal ten times that of flu so you are backtracking” and thinking you’ve won an argument is as ill-informed as it is pathetic. Something can be 100 times deadlier than flu and still claim fewer lives than it with great containment measures. It depends on Boris. His figure doesn’t need to match how many times deadlier the mortality rate is. Ebola’s mortality rate was about 80% in some places, look how many that has killed.

I dissagree, oh and thanks for the insult

 

[SWP's back]

Some of you lot are just scaremongering.

I’m going to snub him next.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I’m going to snub him next.

Great banter, mate.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Some of you lot are just scaremongering.

A lot of people will snub this post. Good bantz though

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Is it likely that air travel could be banned and holidays cancelled etc.?
I have a trip in September and wondering whether this could be jeopardized.

 

[Gabriel]

Interesting findings from a German study (as yet not peer-reviewed).
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09...-likely-not-infectious-after-recovery-begins/

 

[SWP's back]

I dissagree, oh and thanks for the insult

You can disagree that the big warm yellow ball thing in the sky is a star if you want. You’d be just as correct as the post I’m quoting.

He’s just explained how something can be ten times more lethal/deadly and kill only 4x as many people. And you still disagree.

Let’s take Ebola, it has a fatality rate of around 80% if unchecked, it killed fewer people worldwide than Covid-19 during the initial 3 months of its outbreak. Now Ebola is still 800x more lethal despite having killed fewer people (for various reasons such as low R0). But according to your working out, it can’t be more deadly/lethal if it killed fewer people.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I read that the men stat could be linked to smoking rates and the same in China. I may have read that on here though so it might not be true :-)

That's not good as Manchester has the highest number of smoking related deaths anyway according to the City match announcers?

 

[aguero93:20]

Yeah but who is the best expert?

Me.

 

[hilts]

My guess is that we’ll do something similar to Italy which will slow down its spread to an extent that the NHS will just be able to cope. I’m an optimist though and if I’m wrong the NHS could get totally overwhelmed.

The nhs being able to cope is the big part and I hope but ain’t very positive that the govt is working on worst case scenario. Do we have enough medical equipment or people to operate it? Most survive with the right treatment but if they can’t get it then the shit hits the fan big time.

 

[andyhinch]

You can disagree that the big warm yellow ball thing in the sky is a star if you want. You’d be just as correct as the post I’m quoting.

He’s just explained how something can be ten times more lethal/deadly and kill only 4x as many people. And you still disagree.

Let’s take Ebola, it has a fatality rate of around 80% if unchecked, it killed fewer people worldwide than Covid-19 during the initial 3 months of its outbreak. Now Ebola is still 800x more lethal despite having killed fewer people (for various reasons such as low R0). But according to your working out, it can’t be more deadly/lethal if it killed fewer people.

Just work on the principle if you’ve got to explain a simple concept on here more than once, give up they’ll never get it.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I don't think any of us know whats going to happen and that's what is so scary. The numbers coming out of most places seem bad, but not too terrible. The death rate in Italy is a really worrying anomaly though, and until we get data that shows it's due to some peculiarly Italian circumstances then we'd be fools to assume it won't get that bad in terms of the ratio of infection to fatality here.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I don't think any of us know whats going to happen and that's what is so scary. The numbers coming out of most places seem bad, but not too terrible. The death rate in Italy is a really worrying anomaly though, and until we get data that shows it's due to some peculiarly Italian circumstances then we'd be fools to assume it won't get that bad in terms of the ratio of infection to fatality here.

Italy on lock down but flights have continued from the affected area to the uk without any checks .

 

[mackenzie]

Taking on board the Government experts advice on possible self isolating in 7-10 days if you even have cold symptoms, I'm not sure how that will work. Particularly as my employer (public service, Government department) have already said get into work unless you get a positive result for coronavirus.

 

[SWP's back]

Italy on lock down but flights have continued from the affected area to the uk without any checks .

It’s beyond mental.

Qatar has blocked flights from 14 countries and shut down all schools, universities, nurseries and sporting events because yesterday saw the first three community spread cases.

Boris says it’s fine.

 

[Blue Hefner]

 

[west didsblue]

I don't think any of us know whats going to happen and that's what is so scary. The numbers coming out of most places seem bad, but not too terrible. The death rate in Italy is a really worrying anomaly though, and until we get data that shows it's due to some peculiarly Italian circumstances then we'd be fools to assume it won't get that bad in terms of the ratio of infection to fatality here.

I think it’s China that’s the anomaly due the strict measures they managed to enforce to keep the rate down to 50 per million people. I think Italy is likely a foretaste if what we will get in a couple of weeks. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[hilts]

It’s beyond mental.

Qatar has blocked flights from 14 countries and shut down all schools, universities, nurseries and sporting events because yesterday saw the first three community spread cases.

Boris says it’s fine.

I believe they are going to put on shuttle buses to take the passengers to a football game of their choice via the Trafford centre:-)

 

[SWP's back]

We can but hope.