COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Manc in London]

Can I see my fucking family properly yet?

If you are called Dominic Cummings, yes.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Can't our dickhead media show any interest in the actual virus, rather than banging on about bloody Cummings. They don't give a shit really about anything other than trying to score points and stick the boot in.

5 'journalists' so far have had the chance to put questions forward and not a single question about anything other than Cummings.

Good

 

[PragueBlue]

Good

I suspect it is not good for most people who probably couldn't care less about Cummings and would actually like to hear some questions and answers about the virus.

 

[kaz7]

Questions

Under 5yr old testing ? Current tests are difficult for very young kids,they rarely get ill and the transmission from kids doesn't seem to be much

Media

Confirm advice on travelling given what Cummings has done? self isolate at home with the family,stay at home,if it is vulnerable concern like kids or elderly then can be diffetent circumstances,if anyone needs support for kids or elderly they can sort it

She is on message

Travelling with symptoms ? In a household group in a car,it is ok

Did boris know Cummings had travelled? He knew he was in lockdown till he was better,he has boris full support

He did travel 250 miles did he not? He settled on a place and stayed where his family could assist with the kid,he took practical measures for his four year old childs safety and care

Spoken to by the police,no

Nothing to see here

How do you know Cummings didn't infect anyone?not answered

What do you say to people who can't attend funerals because they are sticking to the rules?not really answered

Heart breaking circumstances for families,should they have not stuck to the guidance? The individual has to make a decision within the rules (all those poor people who stuck to their fucking rules at the worst moment in their lives,not able to hold relatives as they died or go to their funeral,disgusting to now say you could have done it differently so to justify Cummings behaviour)

This is painful,trying to justify Cummings trip

Others have resigned ? The child needed looking after,so it was ok to go

Transport workers safety,looking at making it as safe as possible

Families of transport workers help,a range of measures announced includes them

 

[kaz7]

you have no idea if that is true or not.
These guys are doing the science and their results are interesting.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.22.111005v1
and these:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.18.20105189v1

He said people are fighting it off using immunity,nobody is immune to a new virus,immunity post infection is still NOT confirmed by anyone,don't take what I said our of context

 

[BlueHammer85]

Can't our dickhead media show any interest in the actual virus, rather than banging on about bloody Cummings. They don't give a shit really about anything other than trying to score points and stick the boot in.

5 'journalists' so far have had the chance to put questions forward and not a single question about anything other than Cummings.

the same media that gets branded ‘Tory funded’ ‘government backed’ and no doubt most people would be complaining had they not been showing heavy criticism to the government on this.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I could post links to things saying they are true, however, my point was that there is so much mixed messages out there, it's really hard to be informed.

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CDC says COVID-19 not caught easily from surfaces
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-co...ily-on-surfaces-transmission-before-symptoms/

Study shows that six-feet social distancing may not be enough
https://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20200523/3563474.html


School kids at ‘unbelievably low risk’ of catching and spreading coronavirus, major review finds
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11673942/school-kids-low-risk-catching-spreading-coronavirus/

No hard evidence children less likely to spread coronavirus
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/n...pVfR3rSeGjDqi07ApnxDKVkFV78PsjMTSkaPpFwyzaW5o




An utter minefield of misinformation

You've quoted a CDC piece which says 'not caught easily' in the headline and cited it as 'you can't pick it up

Those two things are definitely not the same thing. The Cdc link does not say you cannot pick it up from a surface

 

[True_Blue69]

Singapore data modelling says UK will be virus free by September

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scientists-predict-exact-date-coronavirus-22073343

Hopefully more accurate than our experts modelling.

 

[PragueBlue]

the same media that gets branded ‘Tory funded’ ‘government backed’ and no doubt most people would be complaining had they not been showing heavy criticism to the government on this.

Nothing against them criticising Cummings but it's pretty pointless wasting pretty much the whole of the press conference asking questions that obviously can't or won't be answered by somebody that probably doesn't even know the answers anyway.

 

[kaz7]

No but they are all saying it's likely, just like they say it's likely there will be a second wave which you have taken as gospel.

For the hundredths time,NO dr is able to say to any patient you have immunity,nobody is committing to it,you would see that if you read your own links or mine,there will be a second wave,everyone respectable is saying that ,it is a corona virus and it loves winter,hopefully we are all prepared to keep it to a manageable second wave

 

[kaz7]

The CMO is complicit in blowing the stay at home message wide open,disappointed in her

 

[True_Blue69]

For the hundredths time,NO dr is able to say to any patient you have immunity,nobody is committing to it,you would see that if you read your own links or mine,there will be a second wave,everyone respectable is saying that ,it is a corona virus and it loves winter,hopefully we are all prepared to keep it to a manageable second wave

Like YOU keeps saying this is new virus and no one knows how it is going to behave. At this moment in time I'd say immunity is more likely than a horrific 2nd wave.

 

[Blue Maverick]

They are on the way, instant saliva tests should be here in the next few weeks.

Then that’s ok but as of now pretty pointless

 

[kaz7]

I suspect it is not good for most people who probably couldn't care less about Cummings and would actually like to hear some questions and answers about the virus.

The point they were asking is is it ok to go against the stay at home that have imposed on everyone,it is fair to ask if now if you have symptoms you can dive 250 miles to someone else's house,he has friends in London who could have looked after the child,he is using the child as an excuse,the public can't go to funerals or leave home if they have symptoms,this undermines the whole lockdown

 

[kaz7]

Like YOU keeps saying this is new virus and no one knows how it is going to behave. At this moment in time I'd say immunity is more likely than a horrific 2nd wave.

Who said horrific ,everyone is saying second wave,i said we are well prepared,having said that only 0.25% of Brita have had it

Like YOU keeps saying this is new virus and no one knows how it is going to behave. At this moment in time I'd say immunity is more likely than a horrific 2nd wave.

Stick your head in the sand

 

[PragueBlue]

The point they were asking is is it ok to go against the stay at home that have imposed on everyone,it is fair to ask if now if you have symptoms you can dive 250 miles to someone else's house,he has friends in London who could have looked after the child,he is using the child as an excuse,the public can't go to funerals or leave home if they have symptoms,this undermines the whole lockdown

They could have asked that once and then gone on to other issues. Many questions were asking the transport guy about things such as whether the police spoke to Cummings, whether Johnson knew and when he knew etc. Mainly all things he wouldn't have the answer to. They can spend all day slagging off Cummings on the news and in the papers if they wish.

I understand that point scoring against the government is of more interest to you but I (and am sure millions of others) would prefer to actually get some info about the virus during these briefings.

 

[kaz7]

Singapore data modelling says UK will be virus free by September

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scientists-predict-exact-date-coronavirus-22073343

Hopefully more accurate than our experts modelling.

A spokesman for The Singapore University of Technology said: "The model and data are inaccurate to the complex, evolving, and heterogeneous realities of different Predictions are uncertain by nature. Readers must take any predictions with caution.
"Over-optimism based on some predicted end dates is dangerous because it may loosen our disciplines and controls and cause the turnaround of the virus and infection, and must be avoided.

Read your own links for god's sake,everything you say is misleading

 

[blueparrot]

Who said horrific ,everyone is saying second wave,i said we are well prepared,having said that only 0.25% of Brita have had it

5% was the rough estimates I've seen and we are are still guessing at that.Positive tests are at about 0.4%

 

[vincent]

The point they were asking is is it ok to go against the stay at home that have imposed on everyone,it is fair to ask if now if you have symptoms you can dive 250 miles to someone else's house,he has friends in London who could have looked after the child,he is using the child as an excuse,the public can't go to funerals or leave home if they have symptoms,this undermines the whole lockdown

‘he has friends in London who could have looked after his child’ you know this as a fact? Not sure if you have children but parents would not just hand their kids over to friends. I know I wouldn’t for a number of reasons.

 

[Cityfan]

Yes. Except when you're under a metre away from an infected person is breathing or talking - especially in an enclosed space when aerosol transmission is taking place.

that is droplet infection.