Well this is where the app would come in as you get a notification from the app if someone you have been in close proximity with has tested positive for Covid.
It seems pretty half arsed in its current format without the app.
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Well this is where the app would come in as you get a notification from the app if someone you have been in close proximity with has tested positive for Covid.
It seems pretty half arsed in its current format without the app.
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BLUEMATT23
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Well this is where the app would come in as you get a notification from the app if someone you have been in close proximity with has tested positive for Covid.
It seems pretty half arsed in its current format without the app.
But only if I had the app and took my phone with me in the shop?
But only if I had the app and took my phone with me in the shop?
Yep that’s correct.
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The tracing app. Yes, but that’s not what’s starting tomorrow, that’s track and trace using people to do the tracing as far as I know. The tracing app isn’t ready yet. If you are doing the right things though you shouldn’t be catching it in a shop.But only if I had the app and took my phone with me in the shop?
quiet_riot
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Covid has only been around for 10 weeks so that would equate to510 people hit by lightning and 33 dead from Covid =6.63.3 times higher
Again4080 dead under the same time frame as Covid =6.33.15 times higher.
So Covid-19, in a society with all the restrictions imposed for the last 10 weeks, produces a slightly lower death toll than a bad influenza year, where no restrictions were imposed at all.
And you extrapolate this data to mean Covid-19 isn't that bad?
Edited: Thanks to @the-ecstacy-of-eight for the fact checking!
Sense? In the COVID thread? I'm done!
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The tracing app. Yes, but that’s not what’s starting tomorrow, that’s track and trace using people to do the tracing as far as I know. The tracing app isn’t ready yet. If you are doing the right things though you shouldn’t be catching it in a shop.
Thanks.
So Big Brother is watching us, maybe George Orwell was right after all.
What a fucking joke.
JRockBlues
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Thanks.
So Big Brother is watching us, maybe George Orwell was right after all.
What a fucking joke.
Did you think surveillence of the British public stopped after the Snowden leaks. I can't remember any legislation to tone things down after the bulk data collection revelations were made and I'm sure that things have only gotten worse in the intervening years. After a quick google (other search engines are available) I found this interesting read:
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/why-taki...-spying-gchq-nsa-tempora-prism-edward-snowden
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BLUEMATT23
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Did you think surveillence of the British public stopped after the Snowden leaks. I can't remember any legislation to tone things down after the bulk data collection revelations were made and I'm sure that things have only gotten worse in the intervening years. After a quick google (other search engines are available) I found this interesting read:
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/why-taki...-spying-gchq-nsa-tempora-prism-edward-snowden
Very interesting.
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories obviously this has been a dreadful pandemic which I have lost people that I knew.
That said their has been a lot of odd things happen, for example an unprecedented spell of nice weather for 2 months that hasn't been seen before for years now.
Coincidence or to do with better air quality?
I also think the government is now trying to control us even further and personally I worry that we wont be able to travel abroad ever again, go to football ever again or do a host of other things ever again.
Am I being ridiculous and paranoid?
Maybe but I can foresee some of this happening.
They've been watching you for years so what's the problem now or did you not know !!Thanks.
So Big Brother is watching us, maybe George Orwell was right after all.
What a fucking joke.
CCTV everywhere, the moment you turn you're phone on you're being tracked .
You never know this time it might help you and you're family to stay alive.
A couple of releases from SAGE recently.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...scenario-planning-consensus-view-25032020.pdf
Notable point from that is they were working on an optimistic outcome of 10,000 deaths from the 1st wave.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...i-m-o-consensus-view-on-public-gatherings.pdf
That’s discussing public gatherings and effects they’d have, that one is from February.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...scenario-planning-consensus-view-25032020.pdf
Notable point from that is they were working on an optimistic outcome of 10,000 deaths from the 1st wave.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...i-m-o-consensus-view-on-public-gatherings.pdf
That’s discussing public gatherings and effects they’d have, that one is from February.
Gabriel
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They've been watching you for years so what's the problem now or did you not know !!
CCTV everywhere, the moment you turn you're phone on you're being tracked .
You never know this time it might help you and you're family to stay alive.
The South Koreans had already had this discussion and introduced legislation that prioritized public health over privacy; it's a key reason why they could utilize apps and combat the virus so aggressively. We often heard that Britain couldn't endure a lockdown because it's not that kind of society, but the vast majority of people demonstrated that they are willing to make enormous sacrifices to save the lives of others. Perhaps it would thus be opportune for politicians to debate the issue and see what could be done just in case a second wave does strike.
Bovril
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Like I.D cards that most of the World have, if you have nothing to hide what is the problem ?They've been watching you for years so what's the problem now or did you not know !!
CCTV everywhere, the moment you turn you're phone on you're being tracked .
You never know this time it might help you and you're family to stay alive.
That's probably the problemLike I.D cards that most of the World have, if you have nothing to hide what is the problem ?
Bovril
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IndeedThat's probably the problem
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Honestly don't get the ID card problem. Most people have a driving license on them don't they?
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No they don't, not everyone drives and it is certainly not a legal document to prove who you are for lets say a bank loan. As I alluded to most civilised countries have I.D cards, Germany for example have an Ausweis which they produce at a Bank and can travel around Germany on planes etc. It makes it so easy for transactions etc and more importantly averts fraud.Honestly don't get the ID card problem. Most people have a driving license on them don't they?
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No they don't, not everyone drives and it is certainly not a legal document to prove who you are for lets say a bank loan. As I alluded to most civilised countries have I.D cards, Germany for example have an Ausweis which they produce at a Bank and can travel around Germany on planes etc. It makes it so easy for transactions etc and more importantly averts fraud.
I mean I don't see people's issue with em, I agree with your points. I'll be needing one myself soon.
Bovril
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Sorry Pal I misread your quote, yes I agree I do not have a problem with them either.I mean I don't see people's issue with em, I agree with your points. I'll be needing one myself soon.
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I would have no issue carrying one nothing to hide.No they don't, not everyone drives and it is certainly not a legal document to prove who you are for lets say a bank loan. As I alluded to most civilised countries have I.D cards, Germany for example have an Ausweis which they produce at a Bank and can travel around Germany on planes etc. It makes it so easy for transactions etc and more importantly averts fraud.
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