COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[roubaixtuesday]

Great article for all you panickers and case counters, hopefully put things into a bit of perspective for you.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-covid19-math-mistake-panic/

Russia Today?

Give our regards to Vlad.

Do be sure not to take sugar in your tea

 

[worsleyweb]

Like the teachers?

I don’t know what the answer is but this was always going to be like this after fucking about at the very beginning and the poorly managed loosening of lockdown

However, kids need to be kept in school where possible to allow the adults to go to work.

Kids have to get an education and like you say we have to have more in work so that the economy is not decimated. I think the government know that a vaccine is on its way and just need to strike a very difficult balance until it is given to the majority of the country over winter. Clearly the next three months are going to be incredibly challenging. The more freedom people have the more the virus goes up but from what I see people in this country won’t do another lockdown. It is looking more to me like we have to protect the vulnerable and allow the majority to live. If that means over 60s staying in until there is a vaccine then I think that is what will have to start to happen. Maybe that should have happened more from day one? It is definitely on the increase. City footballers getting it, few at my work. It is very much about in Manchester.

 

[GaudinosWheels]

As a secondary school teacher, I can tell you that a large number of staff in my school are in this age bracket and just as many have underlying health conditions.

I do agree that we should do all we can to keep children in school and I have to say that our school (and LA) appear to have done all they can to encourage social distancing, safety measures and restrict mixing but there’s simply no way you can do this with any real success when you have 1500 kids and 200 staff in one place.

It’s a matter of time before year groups are having to stay at home. The bigger issue is for teachers with kids of their own, if your son or daughter shows symptoms you have to isolate for 14 days. Where does that then leave the continuity of education?

No clear path through this at the moment but I can’t see anything other than an extremely disrupted academic year for most students and teachers.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Kids have to get an education and like you say we have to have more in work so that the economy is not decimated. I think the government know that a vaccine is on its way and just need to strike a very difficult balance until it is given to the majority of the country over winter. Clearly the next three months are going to be incredibly challenging. The more freedom people have the more the virus goes up but from what I see people in this country won’t do another lockdown. It is looking more to me like we have to protect the vulnerable and allow the majority to live. If that means over 60s staying in until there is a vaccine then I think that is what will have to start to happen. Maybe that should have happened more from day one? It is definitely on the increase. City footballers getting it, few at my work. It is very much about in Manchester.

You’re not answering the questions though. You’re throwing out sound bites about just get on with it and keep the economy alive without any sense of the very real dangers and issues that will arrive every day at places like schools.

I don’t know what the strategy in school is in the UK but here’s what the school where my kids go to in Valencia are doing: Class sizes of 20 or less which has meant adding 4 extra classes to the school (we’re lucky it’s only a primary school and only has 1 class per year). But even those 4 extra classes mean all the extra staff at the school, ie various therapists, are now teaching classes full time rather than doing speech therapy. 4 extra classes mean the music room, gym, one of the dining rooms and a spare classroom are now being used as full time classrooms. Kids have to stay in their same class and bubble all day. Teacher wise the school are full, they have nowhere else to go. So one teacher gets it and they are done if other teachers have to isolate because they’ve been in contact with them. The school literally would not be able to function with 2/3 cases. Unless you’re a complete and utter idiot who thinks schools should just carry on regardless of how many cases there are.

 

[worsleyweb]

You’re not answering the questions though. You’re throwing out sound bites about just get on with it and keep the economy alive without any sense of the very real dangers and issues that will arrive every day at places like schools.

I don’t know what the strategy in school is in the UK but here’s what the school where my kids go to in Valencia are doing: Class sizes of 20 or less which has meant adding 4 extra classes to the school (we’re lucky it’s only a primary school and only has 1 class per year). But even those 4 extra classes mean all the extra staff at the school, ie various therapists, are now teaching classes full time rather than doing speech therapy. 4 extra classes mean the music room, gym, one of the dining rooms and a spare classroom are now being used as full time classrooms. Kids have to stay in their same class and bubble all day. Teacher wise the school are full, they have nowhere else to go. So one teacher gets it and they are done if other teachers have to isolate because they’ve been in contact with them. The school literally would not be able to function with 2/3 cases. Unless you’re a complete and utter idiot who thinks schools should just carry on regardless of how many cases there are.

sorry I think you were borderline rude there. I don’t have all the answers and never said I did? But clearly kids being back at school is vital.I have seen the damage 6 months at home has had on mine. The government have an impossible task. Good luck to them.

 

[jay_mcfc]

sorry I think you were borderline rude there. I don’t have all the answers and never said I did? But clearly kids being back at school is vital.I have seen the damage 6 months at home has had on mine. The government have an impossible task. Good luck to them.

No, not being rude but it gets infuriating when people just say things without truly understanding the difficulty of how they work. Schools won’t be opening or closing because of fear or media or governments etc they’ll be closing because they literally won’t be able to function. Unless they’re willing to allow the spread to go around schools and intentionally infect people there won’t be a school in either of our countries that won’t be closed for periods. It’s not scaremongering or negativity it’s just the reality how impossible it will be to stop the spread in places like schools.

 

[yeseye]

Could teachers who are at home for whatever reason or even retired teachers not teach a dozen or so kids who are also at home, using Zoom or similar ?
If only a couple of hours per day,
has to be better then everybody just sitting about at home on social media!

 

[MikeF]

First time of commenting on this subject but I think fear itself is as bad as actually contracting coronavirus.

I just hope it burns itself out like SARS and the Spanish flu did (so I'm led to believe??) as I don't hold much hope out for a vaccine if I'm honest.

 

[worsleyweb]

First time of commenting on this subject but I think fear itself is as bad as actually contracting coronavirus.

I just hope it burns itself out like SARS and the Spanish flu did (so I'm led to believe??) as I don't hold much hope out for a vaccine if I'm honest.

I think and hope a vaccine is very much on its way.

 

[Silva_Spell]

First 20 mins of this with Oxford Professor Carl Heneghan is worth a watch