COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[artfuldodger]

Just a lot of editorials on the conservative side of politics for the Premier of the State to resign , some minor attacks on the premiers office building and many doctors , mental health experts , priests , small business operatives , large corporate CEO's and the list goes on requesting he open up the city again but little more.

A few minor peaceful protests but in general as I said Stockholm Syndrome has run rampant in Melbourne and to a lesser extent in the States that have closed their borders but kept business to a lesser degree open after a short full scale lockdown.

Tourism has been decimated and without government hand outs the true unemployment rate currently sits at 14 per cent Australia wide and 20 per cent in Victoria reminiscent of the Great Depression.

make no mistake Victoria is in a depression after only 7 months of this absurd response to a break out of infections in hotel quarantine whereby 32 private security guards got infected and spread it throughout Melbourne and beyond.

Government support for those impacted has been poor and self funded retirees offered no support at all with many of their incomes including mine income slashed by 50 per cent virtually overnight.

Unfortunately with the delays on elective surgeries , postponed cancer screens , fear instilled in the community that this pandemic is the black plague in disguise or the Spanish flu of the 21st Century , impact on the youth and those who run businesses and their families , the impact on those who live alone ( over 500 suicides above the same period last year in the past 3 months ) the high increase in use of social media , lack of equipment to handle infant cardiology surgery not available in some states and I could go on the number of premature deaths and the age mix of those deaths has way exceeded the deaths from and with covid.

All we had to do was protect the elderly and vulnerable we have so many advantages given population density and supposed first class health facilities and expertise to deal with this with minimum interruption like Taiwan for example that Great Britain does not have.

i would suggest at least in Victoria and I can say the same for other states our response has been about as draconian and poor as it gets despite the number of deaths to date in a population of 25 million.

We have a socialist in charge ( also a sociopath as many of us knew for a long time ) and its a lethal combination to economic destruction.

Sounds horrendous. How soon until you have any sort of election?

 

[Healdplace]

94 England hospital deaths in detail:

20 Oct adds 18 = 18 after 1 day. Second day running this number added in past 24 hours. Last seen on 4 June.

19 Oct adds 40 = 58 after 2 days - now five of the last 6 and six of the last 8 two day totals over 50. After none previously since 8 June.

18 Oct adds 12 = 67 after 3 days.

17 Oct adds 10 = 106 after four days. First 100 death total by any day since 3 June. First 100 total at four days since 28 May and not been higher since 26 May.

16 Oct adds 8 = 86 after five days. Highest five day total since 3 June.

The other deaths were 4 added to 15 October to = 80 and 2 added to 14 October to = 75.

 

[artfuldodger]

As Manchester goes into tier 3 on Friday morning can anyone confirm whether the barbers are still allowed to open? Looked on bbc and can’t make head nor tails of it, saw earlier that gyms make have to close but no idea if that’s correct as I assumed they didn’t have to.
Information is pretty poor as usual by these fucking clowns.

According to Manchester City councils website, the full list of restrictions are yet to be published. But hairdressers have remained open in other tier 3 areas

 

[Healdplace]

The Wales Health Minister says the two week Firebreak lockdown for the nation starting Friday had to be 'sharp and deep' and 'include all parts of society' because of 'worryingly high levels of infection' in the older population.

This is driving the high death levels per population Wales is seeing now.

And is why it has to target the areas where this can spread into the vulnerable community not just be done with half measures.

Guess we will see who has got this right in a month or so.

 

[Scottyboi]

Why should they necessarily need to work in an office environment. They could get a trade, work for themselves and having a skill will always be in demand. The trouble is nowadays no fucker wants to get their hands dirty and they want an easy life. If everyone worked from home nothing would ever get done

Trades will get hit hard soon enough as with any recession, I'm a time served joiner and after 2008 and being young I had no chance getting work with so many more experienced joiners also being in the same predicament.

 

[blueparrot]

Trades will get hit hard soon enough as with any recession, I'm a time served joiner and after 2008 and being young I had no chance getting work with so many more experienced joiners also being in the same predicament.

Should, move round here have to wait months to get a joiner or plumber to do any work, they're snowed under with work.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Trades will get hit hard soon enough as with any recession, I'm a time served joiner and after 2008 and being young I had no chance getting work with so many more experienced joiners also being in the same predicament.

No doubt a recession is looming and it will be the whole work spectrum affected but generally if you have a skill like yours or plumbing or telecoms like myself there is always work. I was lucky the 2008 recession had little or no effect on me.,and with the fttp rollout I might be equally fortunate

 

[AlgarveBlu]

My kids has six months off school and parents who gave a shit, coupled with the resources to sort them laptops and they have thrived.

However, we have to be concerned about those kids who are already served a shit sandwich and have now fallen even further behind?

The lack of opportunities to those people, even with teachers who attempt to intervene and inspire as many kids as they can, are in the shitter.

Classrooms will suffer because of a gap in learning, examinations will suffer, as will a host of mental health issues which could spiral towards depression, crime and poverty.

Spot on - I am fortunate that I can send my children to international school and as a consequence of the last 5 months, one area of massive demand in the Algarve and Lisbon recently has been finding private tutors to get the kids to catch up on the 3 months lost this year, mine are now both doing after school private lessons (yes they hate me) -

the sad reality is though that the vast majority of children and parents here simply can’t afford this and it’s just exacerbating the divide even further in their education and future prospects - this doesn’t sit right with me as I know I am paying my way out of an immediate and future problem which could get a lot worse if this goes on for an indefinite period.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Ages of infections in Scotland today

251 people aged over 65
Including 45 people aged over 85

102 children aged under 15
Including 28 kids aged under 5

279 people aged 15-24

1106 people aged 25-64


Deaths

7 aged 85+
13 aged 75-84
4 aged 65-74
4 aged 45-64

 

[Chippy_boy]

My kids has six months off school and parents who gave a shit, coupled with the resources to sort them laptops and they have thrived.

However, we have to be concerned about those kids who are already served a shit sandwich and have now fallen even further behind?

The lack of opportunities to those people, even with teachers who attempt to intervene and inspire as many kids as they can, are in the shitter.

Classrooms will suffer because of a gap in learning, examinations will suffer, as will a host of mental health issues which could spiral towards depression, crime and poverty.

All fair points I suppose. I do think this "how will it affect my mental health" type of line is way overplayed however. Being a bit worried and pissed off for a few months does not mean mental illness, just that you're worried and pissed off. (Not that you were saying that, to be clear, but many are.)