COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Ric]

Are they being briefed or is it just media noise. If it's the former then it makes a nonsense of the tier system.
Surely they'd move the rest of the nation into T2 before a nationwide escalation to SuperT3/ lockdown?

I'm so glad I don't bother with written media (written or online), bunch of shit stirrers in the main, love to cause panic and love a crisis.

You would think when so many papers are running with it that they’ve been briefed by government, but who knows.

 

[sky tot]

I'm so glad I don't bother with written media (written or online), bunch of shit stirrers in the main, love to cause panic and love a crisis.

I'll stick to what I've been doing since March, and keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not letting it ruin my life.

The biggest thing we could do, as I said about 4 weeks ago, is prevent non essential travel beyond a few miles, won't miss "non essential" for now personally, so long as we can still go out into the fresh air, national trust must think I'm taking the piss out of my membership, but it's been a godsend this year.

Tried to use our NT membership on Sunday to visit Styal Mill . Car park had to be pre booked and the surrounding roads where mayhem . Came away , too busy

 

[BlueHammer85]

Been saying the same for a long time and as I posted in the Marcus Rashford thread it’s time we started thinking outside the box health wise. Teach kids how to cook and grow food, more PE, less burden on the NHS in the long run. Spend now and save billions later.

Jamie Oliver came the closest to revolutionising kids meals and making school meals healthier etc, what did our Great British public go and do, turn up at school gates shoving fast food to kids and everyone else online calling him a ‘c*nt’

 

[blueinsa]

I'm so glad I don't bother with written media (written or online), bunch of shit stirrers in the main, love to cause panic and love a crisis.

Amen.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Indeed!

Although I didn’t mean that people don’t use any Maths, I meant there are aspects of Maths that most people will ever use.

Including the log scale on your graph of deadliness v contagiousness.

 

[cleavers]

Tried to use our NT membership on Sunday to visit Styal Mill . Car park had to be pre booked and the surrounding roads where mayhem . Came away , too busy

The places we've been we've pre-booked by and large apart from a couple of car parks, I don't really know Styal Mill, but we've used houses and gardens, so the car park is part of the booking, and you book a time to arrive.

 

[cleavers]

The places we've been we've pre-booked by and large apart from a couple of car parks, I don't really know Styal Mill, but we've used houses and gardens, so the car park is part of the booking, and you book a time to arrive.

Just checked, you can book for Sunday still, so you'll get into the car park with a ticket.

 

[BlueAnorak]

A lockdown will not work, because...
1. 20% of our population - especially our youth and young adults doesn't give a schidt.
2. You can't lock down and keep schools open (mainly because of 1).

 

[Bluemanc100]

I didn’t see that but fuck me that’s demoralising. It leaves me in complete and utter despair. People just don’t care until their family are dying. Then they’ll blame the government. Don’t get me wrong the government should take a huge portion of the blame, but on average, the general public in this country have been a disgrace. It’s not even a minority. It’s now most people. Nobody gives a shit.

I watched that guy and thought “we’re truly fucked”... I told my missus last night that I was sick of the utter madness in the country and I felt embarassed to be British as a result... she suggested that behaviour would be exactly the same in Germany for example but I seriously doubt that...

We’ll look back on this and feel utter shame as a nation .. or should do

I really despair... even before Covid I felt that we were a selfish nation but this takes the biscuit

 

[Healdplace]

Looking at tomorrow’s headlines, seems a national lockdown is now inevitable.

It is been inevitable since Sage advised a circuit breaker weeks ago. And as many of us said in here then - the longer they wait making the same mistake as in March the longer we will be in it and the more it will cost the economy. And the less likely it is to actually work.

If you try to save £100 by not buying house insurance as bush fire season approaches and it costs you all your savings to rebuild your house after your gamble fails what was billed a prudent decision looks like a catastrophic mistake.

The circuit breaker might have only delayed the inevitable but it would have bought time this rather dog's dinner of multiple tiers does not - not least because simplicity matters if you want people to do the right thing. Give them rules you need to study for an hour to work out and rather obviously most will not bother or just guess.

None of this is wise if you are already struggling with a populace fed up of restrictions.

The messaging and communication has been terrible throughout this mess. I have no idea who they employ to do that job but I would never hire them if I needed clear messaging on something.

Whatever else the lockdown was it was simple, clearly indicative of dire urgency and people responded. If you tell them half the country is fine and does not need any restrictions it gives an easy out to assume that means them or its unfair if it does not mean everyone pulling together.

Dividing the nation is the worst first step you can take. It creates the unhelpful perception of 'no lock down envy'.

But a lockdown also has to be properly enforced not left to do if you feel like it or are a good egg old chap and do the right thing and just ignore those blighters who are not doing their bit

 

[Bluemanc100]

I'm so glad I don't bother with written media (written or online), bunch of shit stirrers in the main, love to cause panic and love a crisis.

I'll stick to what I've been doing since March, and keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not letting it ruin my life.

The biggest thing we could do, as I said about 4 weeks ago, is prevent non essential travel beyond a few miles, won't miss "non essential" for now personally, so long as we can still go out into the fresh air, national trust must think I'm taking the piss out of my membership, but it's been a godsend this year.

I agree with what you’ve said but I think we need to add consequences for anybody breaking the rules ... make an example of people and fine them.. it’s the only way we can deter people from being utter c***s

 

[ayrshire_blue]

545 dead in France today, just from Covid. 50,000 new cases.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

This was the most predictable thing ever. We should have been in lockdown a long time ago, all the recent measures were never going to be enough, pretty much everyone following the news said as much, and here we are, with the inevitable admission that the tiered approach was a complete waste of time.

I said the day it was announced that the tier 3 measures were so weak that I’d have expected them to be the absolute minimum level of restrictions nationwide. Yet they were our top level. It was pointless.

And I’m sure this lockdown won’t be strong enough either.

 

[meltonblue]

It is been inevitable since Sage advised a circuit breaker weeks ago. And as many of us said in here then - the longer they wait making the same mistake as in March the longer we will be in it and the more it will cost the economy. And the less likely it is to actually work.

If you try to save £100 by not buying house insurance as bush fire season approaches and it costs you all your savings to rebuild your house after your gamble fails what was billed a prudent decision looks like a catastrophic mistake.

The circuit breaker might have only delayed the inevitable but it would have bought time this rather dog's dinner of multiple tiers does not - not least because simplicity matters if you want people to do the right thing. Give them rules you need to study for an hour to work out and rather obviously most will not bother or just guess.

None of this is wise if you are already struggling with a populace fed up of restrictions.

The messaging and communication has been terrible throughout this mess. I have no idea who they employ to do that job but I would never hire them of I needed clear messaging on something.

An element of it is not wanting to fully admit just how much of a shambles the track and trace has been too, again at significant cost.

 

[squirtyflower]

I agree with what you’ve said but I think we need to add consequences for anybody breaking the rules ... make an example of people and fine them.. it’s the only way we can deter people from being utter c***s

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Don‘t you see that these poor people are only breaking the rules because they have seen Tory wankers driving from London to Durham?
Personal responsibility is out of the window these days, it’s not how you play the game but how you place the blame.

 

[Ric]

Did anyone else see that fucking idiot on tonight's news. Was being interviewed and admitted to going to a neighbouring area to put a bet on and have a pint because he cannot do that in his area. The interviewer said he shouldn't be doing that and asked him did he think the rules were clear.

Fuckwits response, yes they are clear but there there to be broken.

We have no chance.

Quite a few parents of kids in the same classes as mine have been posting stuff on social media about breaks away this half-term. We cancelled our own holiday, but the kids are asking why when their mates got to go away. All a bit dispiriting.

 

[cleavers]

545 dead in France today, just from Covid. 50,000 new cases.

Neither are their highest sadly.

 

[domalino]

f you try to save £100 by not buying house insurance as bush fire season approaches and it costs you all your savings to rebuild your house after your gamble fails what was billed a prudent decision looks like a catastrophic mistake.

It's like the house was on fire and someone offered the government a fire-extinguisher, but they decided to wait for a bit in case the fire went away or the fire brigade arrived imminently.

Now we're gonna take the fire-extinguisher but by now it won't put the fire out on its own.

 

[cleavers]

I agree with what you’ve said but I think we need to add consequences for anybody breaking the rules ... make an example of people and fine them.

Who's policing it though, there isn't enough police to do the job.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Don‘t you see that these poor people are only breaking the rules because they have seen Tory wankers driving from London to Durham?
Personal responsibility is out of the window these days, it’s not how you play the game but how you place the blame.

“Poor people”?? I thought you were serous for a second.... This is all Cummins’ fault... Oh dear

It set a poor example but you can’t blame that incident for the shit that’s going on at the minute...

I think we’re past the point of no return and the situation is going to get even fucking messier than it has been but we have to make people realise that they can continue to do what the fuck they like...

Just because Cummins stuck his head in the fire, does that mean we all should... does it bollocks..