COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Population density + Too many dickheads + A failure to use mobile phone technology to enforce isolation (it breaches human rights and data privacy rules apparantly) + Baked in PHE and NHS incompetence for the most part.

Changing the team on the bridge would make zero difference

Deploying the term ‘zero difference’ is absurd. Different people making the decisions would have led to different outcomes; possibly ‘better’, possibly ‘worse’. This is manifest. In fact, what your statement implies that if someone had been making the decisions with the intention of causing more harm to the population it would have made zero difference as the other factors to which you referred were so overwhelming in force that governmental input and leadership would have had no impact on the outcome. This is clearly nonsense.

Perhaps the truth is that all those factors, along with the quality (or otherwise) of governmental decision making, made a difference.

 

[blueparrot]

Think there are fewer than 2,000, and some would be elsewhere/serving the service, but I agree they could be deployed.

They could be, and along with, medical students and retired medical staff would be used if we had to use the Nightingales. The hope is we won't though. I'm no supporter of how the government have handled this, but like any insurance policy, it's better not to use it. At least in the case of Nightingales they took the policy out.

 

[Marvin]

Is Government partly culpable for the state of this outbreak?

Perhaps all was in order but at face value I think most people would have been very alarmed at the correlation of a variant and fast-growing clusters.

 

[route46]

I would just like to wish everyone a happy New Tier

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Not sure why the vaccine is approved and we have to wait 5 days to start rolling it out? Ok its NYs day and a weekend. But a delay of 5 days is likley to result in thousands of deaths in a few weeks time. Surely this should be 24/7 day operation. As a country we should have been preparing for this day for months. There must be thousands of qualified and experienced people who are not currently working on the frontline in the NHS with not much else to do at present that could have been utilised to start vaccinating people and these are certainly thousands of premesis's that could be utilised to vaccinate people. You could pay pub and restaurant owners for a start? Doesnt seem to be an awful lot of urgency.

 

[worsleyweb]

what's she had to say for herself mate? potentially putting your family and others at risk

we don’t speak! All through kids. No apology - fuck all.

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Not sure why the vaccine is approved and we have to wait 5 days to start rolling it out? Ok its NYs day and a weekend. But a delay of 5 days is likley to result in thousands of deaths in a few weeks time. Surely this should be 24/7 day operation. As a country we should have been preparing for this day for months. There must be thousands of qualified and experienced people who are not currently working on the frontline in the NHS with not much else to do at present that could have been utilised to start vaccinating people and these are certainly thousands of premesis's that could be utilised to vaccinate people. You could pay pub and restaurant owners for a start? Doesnt seem to be an awful lot of urgency.

It's a huge and complex logistical exercise. I imagine some people would be very quick to whinge about incompetence if they cut corners and the vaccine, staff or invitees to be vaccinated aren't all in the right place at the right time in every single location.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Not sure why the vaccine is approved and we have to wait 5 days to start rolling it out? Ok its NYs day and a weekend. But a delay of 5 days is likley to result in thousands of deaths in a few weeks time. Surely this should be 24/7 day operation. As a country we should have been preparing for this day for months. There must be thousands of qualified and experienced people who are not currently working on the frontline in the NHS with not much else to do at present that could have been utilised to start vaccinating people and these are certainly thousands of premesis's that could be utilised to vaccinate people. You could pay pub and restaurant owners for a start? Doesnt seem to be an awful lot of urgency.

This is an unprecedented situation,all normality has ceased to exist.....it wouldnt exactly be outlandish to believe that should include bank holidays and weekends.

More evidence of incompetence and amateurishness from this joke of a Govt.

 

[FantasyIreland]

It's a huge and complex logistical exercise. I imagine some people would be very quick to whinge about incompetence if they cut corners and the vaccine, staff or invitees to be vaccinated aren't all in the right place at the right time in every single location.

How would working 24/7 to make sure its properly tested and rolled out be cutting corners?

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

How would working 24/7 to make sure its properly tested and rolled out be cutting corners?

We are past the testing stage and are talking about the logistics of distributing millions of does of vaccine that was only approved a few days ago.

What is the most complex logistics exercise you have been involved with?