Covid and travel discussion

M18CTID said:
Where are you getting 3 tests from mate? The way I’m reading it is that it’s 1 test 48 hours or less before you fly home, and a PCR before the end of the 2nd day upon return
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A week ago, you needed a lateral flow test at day 2. They then changed it to a PCR test, so any LFT you’d bought was out the window. Now they’ve added in the pre departure test. 3 tests at over £100 per person. Meanwhile a million free tests are being done every day in the UK. Just make everyone have a test on arrival at the airport. Getting through customs takes so long these days they could have everyone’s results by passport control.
First government in history to make people pay for public health measures, which is why they lurch from one self inflicted crisis to another.
Can’t imagine having the same rules for vaccinated and unvaccinated is the ideal way to get more people coming forward...
 
paulchapo said:
Yes you still have 48 hours to pick up the bug which kind of makes the test pointless. Lateral flow tests give results in less than 30 me minutes. How about everyone does one prior to boarding? No doubts at all then.
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sounds good but can you imagine the havoc at the airport when people are denied boarding a couple of hours before departure and then whose problem do they become
Dont think theres any easy solution but its the sudden chopping and changing doing the damage as you cant plan for what might happens whilst your away
 
cpa said:
Went about 3 years ago ,Tokyo ,Kyoto and Hiroshima amazing place ,prob my fav holiday ... not sure wether it will be open by then tho,used to work for a Hong kong Airline and there talking 2023 !
Having said that thing are changing so quickly its hard to predict
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bloody hell 2023! FFS!

We were going to go to Tokyo glad you enjoyed it mate anyway!
 
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cpa said:
sounds good but can you imagine the havoc at the airport when people are denied boarding a couple of hours before departure and then whose problem do they become
Dont think theres any easy solution but its the sudden chopping and changing doing the damage as you cant plan for what might happens whilst your away
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Yes it could be a pain. That's the problem thing's appear to be getting back to normal so you try and plan ahead then it's all ripped up again. Just like the flu we have to stop panicking, protect ourselves as best we can and carry on. If the flu virus was just discovered we'd have been locking down every winter with this mindset.
 
Blue Maverick said:
This was the week after.
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I know mate but gotta be honest, it’s pretty well known around where I am that Benidorm has been a super spreader. They have really let their guards down there.
Understandable considering how hard businesses were hit during lockdown but they aren’t helping themselves.covid is absolutely rife atm there.
 
paulchapo said:
Just like the flu we have to stop panicking, protect ourselves as best we can and carry on.
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Therein lies the problem though. We've been on four foreign trips since the summer and in most cases, people are really compliant wearing masks at the airport and on the plane, but it's outside of these areas that's the problem.

Walking through the historic parts of Valencia on a Saturday night and the bars and restaurants were packed to the rafters with people crammed in close to each other. This is not the way to make things go away. We only ever ate outside (apart from one morning where we found a quiet corner in Starbucks when it was nearly deserted) and we made sure to mask up whenever we came into crowded spaces, even outside.

People need to change their mentality, then we could probably go about most of our business with little or no change. Unfortunately, I don't see this happening any time soon.
 
paulchapo said:
Yes two, not sure where I got three from.
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if me and my familly do end up going to LOS,Thailand at the end of january
its looking very unlikely now !
currently we will have to have 4 pcr tests
one leaving ,one entering thailand and the same coming back.

my mrs and son wont have seen their Thai familly for 6 years in March 2022,everything was cancelled cos of fucking covid in march 2020.

looks like it will be 2023 at this rate,if we are incredibly lucky
 
Anyone know what test is acceptable 48 hrs prior to travelling back from Lanzarote eg can I take a test with me or do I have to get a test locally?

Cheers Blues.
 
We should be in Tenerife now but the new regulations changed our minds, some of our party have gone and hopefully will have a brilliant time, but my missus works for the NHS and couldnt risk being pinged and have to isolate for 10 days even though she is triple jabbed
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
A week ago, you needed a lateral flow test at day 2. They then changed it to a PCR test, so any LFT you’d bought was out the window. Now they’ve added in the pre departure test. 3 tests at over £100 per person. Meanwhile a million free tests are being done every day in the UK. Just make everyone have a test on arrival at the airport. Getting through customs takes so long these days they could have everyone’s results by passport control.
First government in history to make people pay for public health measures, which is why they lurch from one self inflicted crisis to another.
Can’t imagine having the same rules for vaccinated and unvaccinated is the ideal way to get more people coming forward...
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Yes, in those circumstances it’s 3 tests paid for but present rules state it’s 2 tests needed.
I don’t disagree with some of the other stuff - I’ve long been advocating letting holidaymakers use NHS testing sites and pay £20 per person for a PCR with all monies going to the NHS. That would undercut the private companies hugely and it would make it less prohibitive for many. That said, before Omicron hit you only needed a LFT upon return and they were even cheaper than £20 with many firms. And it has to be said most other countries are charging for tests to travel too - as far as I can see, no holidaymakers are getting free Covid tests anywhere in the world.
As for the last bit, if we’re at a stage this far into things that we should still be bending over backwards to pander to those who haven’t had the jab insofar as applying the same rules to them as the vaccinated then where’s the incentive for the anti-vaxxers to have it?
 
blue44 said:
if me and my familly do end up going to LOS,Thailand at the end of january
its looking very unlikely now !
currently we will have to have 4 pcr tests
one leaving ,one entering thailand and the same coming back.

my mrs and son wont have seen their Thai familly for 6 years in March 2022,everything was cancelled cos of fucking covid in march 2020.

looks like it will be 2023 at this rate,if we are incredibly lucky
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It's a pain, I thought we were going to live with this now.
 
frothy said:
We should be in Tenerife now but the new regulations changed our minds, some of our party have gone and hopefully will have a brilliant time, but my missus works for the NHS and couldnt risk being pinged and have to isolate for 10 days even though she is triple jabbed
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yeh,,we got pinged after coming off the plane from Teneriffe 2 weeks back,i asume the whole plane was pinged as we were at the back and someone we know was at the front who was also pinged,didnt have to isolate as we had been jabbed,is that not how it works now?,,sorry you lost your hols mate you would have had a good time out there. it was nice seeing people partying after so long
 
M18CTID said:
Yes, in those circumstances it’s 3 tests paid for but present rules state it’s 2 tests needed.
I don’t disagree with some of the other stuff - I’ve long been advocating letting holidaymakers use NHS testing sites and pay £20 per person for a PCR with all monies going to the NHS. That would undercut the private companies hugely and it would make it less prohibitive for many. That said, before Omicron hit you only needed a LFT upon return and they were even cheaper than £20 with many firms. And it has to be said most other countries are charging for tests to travel too - as far as I can see, no holidaymakers are getting free Covid tests anywhere in the world.
As for the last bit, if we’re at a stage this far into things that we should still be bending over backwards to pander to those who haven’t had the jab insofar as applying the same rules to them as the unvaccinated then where’s the incentive for the anti-vaxxers to have it?
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The last bit is correct, the jabbed are incurring the same costs and restrictions as the unjabbed. Spain are different they won't let you in unless double jabbed at the moment
 
What I don’t understand is, this variant is now here and spreading so stricter travel rules won’t help and cause great inconvenience. The rules that slow the spread and cause no inconvenience like masks in crowds and all indoor settings when moving around, like vaccine passports we aren’t bothering with. Makes no sense to me.
 
frothy said:
We should be in Tenerife now but the new regulations changed our minds, some of our party have gone and hopefully will have a brilliant time, but my missus works for the NHS and couldnt risk being pinged and have to isolate for 10 days even though she is triple jabbed
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Me and my mrs both work for the nhs and we have had all 3
we both had to stay away from our workplace 3 weeks ago when our son tested positive,our trust wont allow us to go to work in them circumstances,i then caught it from my son and have been off 2 weeks with it now,my mrs had to stay off work again because i have it !
First time we have had to stay off ,and my mrs was on ITU for 15 months !
 
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