COVID Data Thread

[Healdplace]

SCOTLAND CASES - THE RISE OF OMICRON OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS

CASES IN DATE ORDER:- MON 20 DEC to MON 3 JAN

6734 - 5242 - 5967 - 6215 - 7076 (CHRISTMAS EVE) - 8252 (CHRISTMAS DAY) - 11,030 (BOXING DAY) -

10,562 - 9360 - 15,849 - 16,857 - 11,962 (NEW YEAR'S EVE) - 17,065 (NEW YEAR'S DAY) -

14,080 (YESTERDAY)

20,217 (TODAY)

 

[Toney’s bookie]

Unbelievable the people on this site that have proved positive after there test,jabs boosters more jabs (4th coming along soon) people need to stop going in pubs, restaurants, holidays and crowded places before blaming the unjabed.

Absolute rubbish. People will live their lives and so they should

 

[xgorton]

Absolute rubbish. People will live their lives and so they should

Ok Boris,pile the bodies high.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

SCOTLAND DATA

ONLY SCOTLAND AND ENGLAND REPORTING AND NO DEATH DATA HERE EITHER TODAY

THERE ARE SO MANY TESTS BEING PROCESSED THEY SAY THESE MAY EVEN BE AN UNDER ESTIMATE!

TODAY THOUGH IS A NEW SINGLE DAY RECORD IN SCOTLAND

20, 217 cases - was 10, 562 last week & 6734 two weeks ago today

34.9% positivity - highest ever here - was 15.2% two weeks ago

1031 patients - UP from 859 last data 48 hours ago - was 555 last Monday - so DOUBLED in 7 days

Though that 478 extra patients is from at least 80,000 cases in the same 7 days.

So around one in 200 cases becoming hospitalised patients.

38 ventilated - was 37 last week - so as you see despite all those cases and near 500 more in hospital ventilated patients have barely moved.

THIS SUPPORTS WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT OMICRON - MANY CATCH IT - FEWER GOING INTO HOSPITAL FROM IT AND EVEN FEWER NEEDING VENTILATION SO LIKELY TO DIE FROM IT.

I know its widely discussed, but from anything I've read there's still no breakdown of admissions which are either incidental or admissions where Covid is the primary factor. With such level of spread in the community, it must be reasonable to suspect that a high number of the hospital admissions will be purely incidental. (Not having a dig at your figures btw, it is what it is!)

The ventilation number is extremely reassuring.

 

[Bluewonder]

I know its widely discussed, but from anything I've read there's still no breakdown of admissions which are either incidental or admissions where Covid is the primary factor. With such level of spread in the community, it must be reasonable to suspect that a high number of the hospital admissions will be purely incidental. (Not having a dig at your figures btw, it is what it is!)

The ventilation number is extremely reassuring.

There is a weekly analysis of exactly that for England.

See primary diagnosis supplement.

Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity

Health and high quality care for all, <br />now and for future generations

www.england.nhs.uk

Not sure about rest of UK

 

[Healdplace]

I notice the BBC have JUST spotted the worrying rise in Northern Ireland care home cases that the data was flagging up a week ago. And I have been referring to for days in the NI numbers. Such a shame they have to be told about things that are obvious to anyone following the numbers from long before.

In a situation we are in where days mean lives I find that very poor reaction from our media. But not suprising sadly. I have lots of first hand experience of knowing what the press in the UK are like. It is a key reason I look at the data myself not trust to seeing it filtered by them days afterwards.

 

[Healdplace]

Data delayed again today until at least 5.30 due to the England death numbers being late in appearing.

 

[blueparrot]

I know its widely discussed, but from anything I've read there's still no breakdown of admissions which are either incidental or admissions where Covid is the primary factor. With such level of spread in the community, it must be reasonable to suspect that a high number of the hospital admissions will be purely incidental. (Not having a dig at your figures btw, it is what it is!)

The ventilation number is extremely reassuring.

Yes they will but it makes little difference, once in hospital whether incidental or not they have to be isolated causing more wards to be used and staffing / equipment issues.
For example a stroke patient admitted would normally go to the stroke ward with specialist staff and equipment, but if they test positive for covid they have to be isolated from the general stroke ward. Into a ward that needs staffing and as a result can’t be used for it’s usual purpose.
So while on one hand it’s good less are in hospital for covid, the fact many are in with covid doesn’t help the staff / capacity issue.

 

[Healdplace]

Yes they will but it makes little difference, once in hospital whether incidental or not they have to be isolated causing more wards to be used and staffing / equipment issues.
For example a stroke patient admitted would normally go to the stroke ward with specialist staff and equipment, but if they test positive for covid they have to be isolated from the general stroke ward. Into a ward that needs staffing and as a result can’t be used for it’s usual purpose.
So while on one hand it’s good less are in hospital for covid, the fact many are in with covid doesn’t help the staff / capacity issue.

Exactly, as I have said before when this question came up as to why I do not post it. They will all be treated as Covid patients and so recorded as such. But we have known this difference was occurring in South Africe from weeks ago - many tested only after entering hospital with something else - so it was always likely to be the case here too.

With 200,000 cases a day and most of them largely asymptomatic as far as hospitalisation is required it is simply inevitable some will either have long standing conditions made worse that triggers need to be treated or by sheer chance got something else or just fell off a roof whilst having Covid and not knowing this.

So never really a viable option to try to separate anyway.

I suspect it is not uncommonly just Covid that kills people but the secondary consequences that result from it imvading the body depending on individual risk factors.

It will only be a factor in terms of recording deaths properly where deciding IF Covid was the cause or just a factor or just there and not even connected with the death is a tough thing to figure out. As I know from my own family and have mentioned before.

But if you are in hospital WITH Covid for purposes of hospital treatment that is what matters there and then. It still has to be treated as a Covid case.

 

[Healdplace]

By the way as of last Friday in Scotland just 1 of the 859 patients then in hospital with Covid was in the 36 who were on ventilated icu beds and also had the Omicron variant according to the Edinburgh News.